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Re: The Wonders of...
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I can't decide if this is deception or stupidity of the highest order from 1973lee1973:
eBay Item #141656456501
Clearly this is 2010 Print-on-demand HarperCollins edition. One would expect a guy who's been selling Tolkien books on eBay for nearly a decade to spot this...

The generic description is also hysterically vague:
VERY SOUGHT AFTER AND COLLECTABLE
Hardback Edition of THE PEOPLES OF MIDDLE EARTH
(being book 12 in The History of Middle Earth)
rarely seen for sale
worthy of any collection
and an absolute must for any collector
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excellent condition, not price clipped, no inscriptions - see pics for further illustration of condition

I am selling all 12 books in the History Of Middle Earth series

would make an excellent addition to any collector / fans collection

worth much more than the asking price

low starting price, this value only likely to increase with the film release.

BH

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Re: The Wonders of...
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The Wonders of... Amazon.

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Re: New Book Releases
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Trotter wrote:

Stu wrote:
Daniel Grotta almost certainly had fair use doctrine on his side when it came to reprinting his (non-contentious but unauthorised) biography, but he chose not to out of fear of the Estate and its alleged nastiness when he first wrote it.


I am just looking at my copy of his non-contentious biography

"For a time, Mabel Suffield had tried to teach Christianity to the Sultan of Zanzibar's harem."

Did Daniel Grotta think or believe this statement was correct when he wrote it, he gives no clues as to any evidence that he may have had access to, or did he just make it up?

This quote was used by William Ready in the The Tolkien Relation and some people today still think it is correct

I am not a fan of any books that make up items about J.R.R. Tolkien and his family, that readers may believe are true


Grotta wrote his biography before Humphrey Carpenter's, against - apparently - a backdrop of obfuscation from the estate. I'm sure that there may be errors in it, but I have not read anywhere that it is full of fabrications. To judge it against a work written subsequently, directly for the estate (with the estate's full cooperation, rather than obfuscation) seems unreasonable.

The Carpenter biography is the official view of Tolkien, as sanctioned by the estate. It seems foolhardy to think that it could be the only version of the "facts" that might have merit or that it must be complete in all regards. I'm sure all the biographies have their failings, some more so than others. All of them, even Carpenter's probably contain things that are fabrications or distortions.

I'm not being "pro" this new book, as I suspect it will be a work of fiction, but to blindly assume everything that Carpenter wrote was the "whole truth and nothing but the truth" is incredibly naive.

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Edited by Stu on 2015/5/2 15:08:03
Edited by Stu on 2015/5/2 15:09:34


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I'm not a fan of bullcrap merchants either. Another case is Michael White, who basically copied his biography of Tolkien from Carpenter, except for one 'fact' which he (apparently) made up all by himself; that Tolkien saw a hole in the study carpet and so wrote 'In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit.'

Sadly that nonsense has found its way into another publication; a guide to Oxford. Won't be long before it's as ubiquitous as the 'Perrot's Folly' nonsense that's been floating round for years.

Having said that, I agree - from what I've read, I can't imagine them selling many copies - so not worth my bothering about, really.

Posted on: Yesterday 8:09:48

Edited by garm on 2015/5/2 9:44:11


Re: New Book Releases
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Stu wrote:
Daniel Grotta almost certainly had fair use doctrine on his side when it came to reprinting his (non-contentious but unauthorised) biography, but he chose not to out of fear of the Estate and its alleged nastiness when he first wrote it.


I am just looking at my copy of his non-contentious biography

"For a time, Mabel Suffield had tried to teach Christianity to the Sultan of Zanzibar's harem."

Did Daniel Grotta think or believe this statement was correct when he wrote it, he gives no clues as to any evidence that he may have had access to, or did he just make it up?

This quote was used by William Ready in the The Tolkien Relation and some people today still think it is correct

I am not a fan of any books that make up items about J.R.R. Tolkien and his family, that readers may believe are true

Posted on: Yesterday 4:47:19

Edited by Trotter on 2015/5/2 5:07:04
Edited by Trotter on 2015/5/2 5:18:59
Edited by Trotter on 2015/5/2 5:38:48
Edited by Trotter on 2015/5/2 5:51:15



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