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Re: History of Middle Earth - Deluxe Ltd 1000
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Tapuvae wrote:
Ugh, So the books arrived. HOME 1 is not sealed and is quite ratty and both the LOTR and Hobbit are later impressions (seller told me they were cloth cases), let alone the other minor issues with the cheaper books (sun faded spines). The HOME 1 looks quite awful. Yikes.



That's terrible news re the HOME 1 - Don't muck about here. You must immediately file a dispute with eBay on that book. If the book is not as described, then you should pursue a refund ASAP, and you need to maximise your chances of success by saying within the time windows. Sealed or otherwise, the HOME 1 is stated to be in "as new", "mint", "unread" condition.

I notice the text for HOME 1 doesn't say "still in shrink-wrap", which is - perhaps - telling. I also notice what looks like tape at the top and bottom of the Home 1 Pictures. It looks like an unsealed book with some cling-wrap taped on -- but only with the benefit of hindsight. I'm assuming the other books WERE sealed, and the seller cleverly gave the impression that this one was also, without actually stating it. It also means the pictures didn't show the condition of the book at all -- sneaky.

I think with the Hobbit, you are out of luck, unless you still have the email communications with the seller stating it is a cloth slipcase (if you do, then definitely file a dispute). There is nothing in the auction itself to indicate that it is the 1st impression. From the pictures it appears to be a 2nd impression with vinyl slipcase (if I had to guess), but it isn't possible to be sure either way from those pictures. I guess it is down to any email claims, and as to whether it is in the stated condition (you mention sun-faded spines?).

With the LOTR, I can see fairly easily that it is a 3rd/4th impression by looking at the picture of the reverse of the slipcase. You can see the fake grain showing through. However, again - if the seller has claimed a cloth slipcase in your email communications with them, then I would say you have grounds for a dispute. If not, then it is just down to whether the book is in "mint", "as new" condition. Note that a cloth slipcase wouldn't have guaranteed you a 1st, as the first two impressions of LoTR had cloth slipcases.

I hope you get a decent result. I think you are definitely in the clear with HoME1 if it is tatty, but you may struggle on the others, and it may depend on the communication outside of the auction. Best of luck getting an acceptable outcome.

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Re: History of Middle Earth - Deluxe Ltd 1000
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Yikes indeed!

I didn't really pay that much attention to the auctions once the prices started rising. I hope you weren't only going on the presence of a cloth slipcase for impression numbering in regard to LR? Were they stated to be first impressions? Having said all this, if the seller said a copy was sealed, & it wasn't, --then clearly this is grounds for returning the item as not described. You spent a hell of a lot of money to not be happy with the condition of these books...

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Ugh, So the books arrived. HOME 1 is not sealed and is quite ratty and both the LOTR and Hobbit are later impressions (seller told me they were cloth cases), let alone the other minor issues with the cheaper books (sun faded spines). The HOME 1 looks quite awful. Yikes.

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That's what I thought, which makes "The world first publication of a previously unknown work of fantasy by J.R.R. Tolkien, which tells the powerful story of a doomed young man who is sold into slavery and who swears revenge on the magician who killed his father." on the HarperCollins website a trifle dubious.

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http://www.tolkiensociety.org/2015/07 ... ok-the-story-of-kullervo/

"HarperCollins have officially announced that J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Story of Kullervo will be released in an edition edited by Verlyn Flieger on 27th August this year.

“The Story of Kullervo” was written by Tolkien in 1914 and was his own reworking and re-imagining of part of the tale of the Finnish saga Kalevala. The story is significant in the development of Tolkien’s legendarium as it provided the basis for Túrin Turambar, a tragic hero of The Silmarillion and The Children of Húrin.

Verlyn Flieger, who has also edited Smith of Wootton Major and Tolkien On Fairy-stories, first published “The Story of Kullervo” in 2010 in Tolkien Studies: Volume 7. This edition, available in hardback for £16.99 on the 27th August, follows the similar publications of The Fall of Arthur, Beowulf and The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún. The official information from the publishers states:

Kullervo son of Kalervo is perhaps the darkest and most tragic of all J.R.R. Tolkien’s characters. ‘Hapless Kullervo’, as Tolkien called him, is a luckless orphan boy with supernatural powers and a tragic destiny.

Brought up in the homestead of the dark magician Untamo, who killed his father, kidnapped his mother, and who tries three times to kill him when still a boy, Kullervo is alone save for the love of his twin sister, Wanona, and guarded by the magical powers of the black dog, Musti. When Kullervo is sold into slavery he swears revenge on the magician, but he will learn that even at the point of vengeance there is no escape from the cruelest of fates.

Tolkien himself said that The Story of Kullervo was ‘the germ of my attempt to write legends of my own’, and was ‘a major matter in the legends of the First Age’. Tolkien’s Kullervo is the clear ancestor of Túrin Turambar, tragic incestuous hero of The Silmarillion. In addition to it being a powerful story in its own right, The Story of Kullervo – published here for the first time with the author’s drafts, notes and lecture-essays on its source-work, The Kalevala – is a foundation stone in the structure of Tolkien’s invented world.
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Posted on: 7/2 22:38:03



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