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"would like to make the market think"?? I guess it is the opposite way around. It is the market that makes me think that.

An example, I got the limited editions of the Folio Society available... all different limitations numbers will sell far less easy then matching limitation numbers. Is there any difference? No, but still I have seen it happen about 10 times before.

If I have a lower number limited edition it sells much, much better and demand is very high for the lower numbers, while the higher numbers always takes 'much' longer to sell.

No really, it is the market that dictates the value, not the other way around...

Posted on: 2010/8/20 3:23


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> Out of interest, for those who agree with low numbers being more valuable (and I know some don't) how low does a number need to be? Number 17 of 500 seems to be quite good I would think?


Personally, I don't think it makes much - if any - difference. Some of the prominent Tolkien book dealers would like to make the market think it does (and price lower numbered copies accordingly), but unless the lower numbered book is different (e.g. signed, vs unsigned), there is no logic to it costing more. The number is completely arbitrary.

I was fortunate to get two for the price of one (at the original price), so I only paid GBP 125 per copy. I think that is about what they are worth to me, and if I could get GBP250 for my lower numbered copy (19), I would be pretty happy as that would leave me with a single copy with no outlay. Realistically, though, I don't see them being "worth" much more than GBP 175 or so each, so I'll more than likely just hold onto them unless I have a pressing need for cash. I'm not as anti this book as some of the posters are (it grew on me), but the asking price and number of copies printed was always daft.


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Posted on: 2010/8/20 3:16


BBC Archive Video from 1968 - Tolkien in Oxford
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30 March 1968 From the Chronology for this date, it was originally called Tolkien in Oxford and was broadcast on BBC2 as part of the programme Release from 9:50 to 10:30pm.

For people who don't have access to Rayner Unwin's George Allen & Unwin - a Remembrancer, this documentary is mentioned on page 127.

There was also an opportunity, which we did not want to miss, for a BBC film to be made on 'Tolkien in Oxford.' Early in 1968 I broached the idea to Tolkien, well aware of his instinctive detestation of personal publicity, and of previous blunderings by the BBC in particular. 'I would recommend this project as the least painful way of putting yourself on the record for posterity and giving yourself a let-out for future importunate film-makers'. ... The film was made during a bleak couple of days in February. Tolkien co-operated, but only occasionally did the filming spark his imagination and enthusiasm. At the end he was taken, muffled in his overcoat, to be filmed watching a firework display, that it was assumed, because Gandalf had made them for Old Took, Tolkien would enjoy. But he was tired and confused and the finished film had so many distractions, with student opinions being given equal weight to Tolkien himself, that it was a less memorable programme than we had hoped. Posterity is also the poorer for the loss of a large quantity of film that was discarded at the cutting-room stage and has subsequently disappeared.


It appears to be viewable worldwide and it is great to see the BBC putting some of these documentaries on view again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/writers/12237.shtml

Posted on: 2010/8/19 21:49

Edited by Trotter on 2010/8/19 22:31:25
Edited by Trotter on 2010/8/19 23:07:07


Re: Super Deluxe values
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No. 17 of the SD Sigurd with a buy it now of £299:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tolkien-signed- ... 5?pt=Fiction#ht_500wt_920

Out of interest, for those who agree with low numbers being more valuable (and I know some don't) how low does a number need to be? Number 17 of 500 seems to be quite good I would think?

Posted on: 2010/8/19 14:45


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The going rate on eBay for S&G would appear to be £170... The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún - Deluxe Edition Deja vu indeed alpingloin! First of all he's (Wellinghall) asking about buying them; then he wants to get rid of them! BH


I think the main point here is why is this seller, selling a book which costs £350 from www.tolkien.co.uk for £170, you don't need to know much about maths to know that this is a bad deal, unless the book is already remaindered or they got a special price.

I think HarperCollins, if they have not already started, are going to have to remainder this book.

They took no notice of any posts on this forum prior to the release stating that 500 copies was 'bonkers' and they have charged far too high a price for an edition that is no where near as good as the previous CoH Super Deluxe and has a lot less appeal.

Posted on: 2010/8/19 11:06



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