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Re: Tolkien US Editions
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I have just combed eBay, and found images of both states for most of the books, so clearly they fixed it at some point. I emailed my contact at Easton Press to find out more information on when the change was made.

Oh, and just to close out the other "error" - I was imagining things with the fourth line - with better images, it is clear that the rune matches Tolkien's map drawing. Red herring!

Posted on: 2011/10/7 22:16
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I just had a look at all my books (ut, sil, bolt1, bolt2, hob, fr, tt, rotk and atlas) and they all have the incorrect fourth rune on the second line. It will be interesting if they fix this if/when they reprint the ones that aren't in the "set of 5". I hope so as it will define a first and second state of those books, which adds a bit of interest, if nothing else.

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Reading from this link
http://mulubinba.typepad.com/ra_viewe ... f/2011/04/thrors-map.html

it looks like my map is correct!

Stand by the grey stone when the thrush knocks, and the setting sun with the last light will shine on Durin's Day will shine upon the key-hole

"when" - the rune for w is a "P"

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edit: I'm confused now because I checked another Hobbit (2004) and the runes are on the back of the map in mirror writing but taking that into account the order is the same as the Easton Press order.

edit 2: found this info: "Tolkien’s use of the runic alphabet is pretty
straightforward, but there is some variation between a strictly letter-for-letter transliteration (as in FIUE (‘five’) in which the silent ‘e’ is preserved)
and a more phonetic approach (for example,DoR for ‘door’ rather thanDooR). Also notable in the moon-letters is the use ofHWEN (‘hwen’) for ‘when’,
which follows Old English usage."

So in conclusion
1. the 1976 Hobbit is wrong after all.
2. Easton press has the right order, but there is a version of their Hobbit where the runic "H" is missing the middle bar

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In my copy the 4th and the 5th rune on the second line are switched. This from a 2nd impression of the 1976 Allen&Unwin deluxe edition. Will update with an image soon.

Here it is:

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Re: Tolkien US Editions
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Can you provide an image of your copy, SonOfDolf? I think I understand what you are saying, but there are two occurances of M & P on that line, so I am not 100% sure...

Also, here is another image that clearly shows the first rune (on the second line) as having been corrected:



The fourth line still appears to have the wrong rune. I found a better image (more accurate ) to show what I am talking about.



I have marked the rune in question. Note that it is not the same rune as the one in blue, but Easton's is appears to be the same. Can you confirm? it is hard to tell from just cover scans, perhaps the right side of the Easton rune is not vertically connected, which would make it correct.

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