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Re: Dodgy Children of Hurin Bookplates on Ebay
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I'm not sure what you're saying!

B&N got ~450 (signed by CT & AL), Waterstones ~200 (signed by CT only)--as widely reported at the time (figures from David Brawn via Beren).

When you say "Once all of the UK books were sold..." --where & when are you referring to? You go on to say "they were stuck into the only available Deluxe Editions, (which got a higher price) which happened to be the US version...". In the US only HM's standard Hb had been published at launch time.

Theoretically, excepting the one or two that you refer to (that were held back; probably unofficially) & the more problematic peeling problem, the variations are fairly straightforward --are they not? Why would any bookplates have been inserted into US Deluxe editions?

Not trying to up the scarcity claim (because there were, reportedly, about 900 of these all in) but CT himself didn't have any for distribution at the time, so I doubt (as discussed above back in 2007) that The Tolkien Estate had much, if any. DB stated recently that they were all used i.e. (my interpretation) they were all distributed by HC (regardless of what then happened to them) at the time. He gave no hint or impression of staggered distribution.

The peeling is quite interesting though...

BH

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Re: What should I spend my £100 on- just for fun
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Thanks for your posts Garm, Jlong, Gawain and Remy.
Does anyone have a photo of the original binding of the 1936 edition of 'Seinte Iuliene'? I have received this photo's of the seller but it's not the original binding, is it?
I've also uploaded a photo of The Return of the King and of the other two books, for comparison.
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Posted on: 2010/9/6 2:02

Edited by Onnion on 2010/9/6 2:21:24
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Re: What should I spend my £100 on- just for fun
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Personally (and without hesitation), I would go for the 1936 Passiun of Seinte Iuliene. Quite hard to find an original printing (especially in original wrappers - mostly found re-bound). And £40 seems extremely reasonable (The in-print EETS edition costs around that amount new). That would be from my "collector's" point of view.

Posted on: 2010/9/5 14:32


Re: Dodgy Children of Hurin Bookplates on Ebay
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Just thought I would add to the discussion a little.

I managed to procur a few of the US Deluxe Editions with the signed bookplate from a couple of people who worked for one of the business involved in the release at Waterstones. Part of my purchase agreement was not to divulge the identity of the individuals or what company they worked for. Since then I have come to the conclusion that there were a number of extra's of the bookplates that did not make it into the trade edition or deluxe editions that were sold at the release date party(s). Once all of the UK books were sold, they were stuck into the only available Deluxe Editions, (which got a higher price) which happened to be the US version which was released a few days before I received them (after shipping from the UK). I have no reason to believe that they are fakes, as I have compared them to many copies in my own collection/inventory, and they appear to be genuine in every respect.

One other point to make for discussion purpose's only. I also discovered that the newly stuck down plates were very easy to lift and replace. I had one book that had a bad binding error, and I tried to lift it, and it was quite easy to remove. Just a little bit of carefull pulling from one corner, and the whole bookplate liften right off, leaving no residue, and was able to stick back into it's current residence, still in my personal collection.

Also in the US, if you could not make the signing even in New York, you could simply call in and place an order for up to two of the signed copies and charge it to your credit card. Luckily I figured this out a couple of days before, and managed to get two direct from the bookseller Barnes & Noble. Just thought I would mention that, as anyone could have purchased that way. Maybe next time around someone will benefit from that knowledge.

Also, I have run across about every variation possible on the Alan Lee signatures, date, no date, signed to the bookplate, not signed on the bookplate but on the title page, extra drawing by AL done on the front endpaper, etc. Just about anything you could think of he would do, given the time. With the number of signing he attended with a few days of release the number of permutations is almost endless.

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Posted on: 2010/9/5 14:16



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