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Posted on: 2009/9/25 7:24


First Impression GA&U Return of the King
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Inspired by garm's comment on a copy of "The Return of the King",

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Return-of-the-K ... 87ff&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

and its mention of priority on printing errors, I was interested in this copy and its mention of the variants on the text on page 281, which is described on Neil Holford's website

http://www.tolkienbooks.net/html/1st-rotk.htm

"Variants of the text on page 281
There is another area of damaged text on the last line of page 281. There are two states, priority as follows:

1. There is a gap in the middle of the word Me n.
2. The gap has been closed - Men.

The small scale survey by Steven M. Frisby found 4 out of 10 copies checked had the defective text."

The priority for the error on page 49 has been established as

"Variants of the text on page 49
The next set of variants concern the text on page 49. Priority as follows:

1. Undamaged text. No signature mark '4'.
2. Damaged text. No signature mark '4'.
3. Damaged text. Signature mark '4' present."

and the copy on Ebay has state 3 on page 49 and state 1 on page 281, my copy has state 1 on page 49 and state 2 on page 281, which leads me to question the priorities for page 281 and that should it be

"Variants of the text on page 281
There is another area of damaged text on the last line of page 281. There are two states, priority as follows:

1. The gap has been closed - Men.
2. There is a gap in the middle of the word Me n."

On looking at my Second Impression ROTK, page 281 is state 1.

This could have occurred because the priorities for page 49 were orginally thought to have been state 3 first, in which case page 281 would have a matching gap in Me n.

What do you think? Does anyone have a copy with state 1 of page 49 and a gap in Me n on page 281?

Andrew

Posted on: 2009/9/24 22:56


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Take a look here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Return-of-the-K ... 87ff&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

- particularly at the 'provenance'. Apart from the iffy connection (if any) between Tolkien and this 'Rathbone', - Tolkien is said to have had dealings with Trinity college, and also Hilary college. Since when has there been a Hilary college at Oxford?

Obviously the vendor has mistaken the names of two of Oxford's terms (Michaelmas; Hilary; Trinity) for the names of colleges. It just happens to be a coincidence that there's also a college called Trinity.

But, this whole piece is bunk! And possibly meant to deceive? What do others think?

Posted on: 2009/9/24 14:53


Re: Tolkien the spy?
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If you are interested in this area, then I recommend "Enigma" by Hugh Sebag-Montefiore, who had a special interest in Bletchley Park as it was his families ancestral home.

A good book, we referred to it when writing our post. Also on our shelves is Seizing the Enigma by David Kahn (1991).

Wayne and Christina

Posted on: 2009/9/24 5:05


Re: Tolkien the spy?
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Findegil wrote:
The Royal Navy did not exactly use the secret German traffic "to intercept and destroy Hitler's U-Boats", as doing so would have given away the fact that Enigma was not impenetrable.


Did Bletchley Park use the deciphered traffic "to intercept and destroy Hitler's U-Boats"?

On the whole no, they used it primarily to make sure that convoys went around the areas where the U-Boats were waiting.

Later in the in the war the information from Bletchley Park was shared with the US and both the Royal Navy and US Navy sank all the German refueling vessels for U-Boats.

The Germans never believed that the ciphers had been broken, but that copies of the codebooks had been obtained and every time they got suspicious they changed the codes that were used.

If you are interested in this area, then I recommend "Enigma" by Hugh Sebag-Montefiore, who had a special interest in Bletchley Park as it was his families ancestral home.

Andrew

Posted on: 2009/9/20 22:12



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