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Re: The wonders of eBay
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Overpriced, both ...

Posted on: 2009/9/1 18:04
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Re: The wonders of eBay
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Posted on: 2009/9/1 6:03
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Re: Are tolkien collectors the most hardcore completeists?
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In Tolkien's Gown (2004) Rick Gekoski drops loads of snippets regarding his experience of dealing in (mainly) 20th century books: Modern First Editions. I can't find the quote (not that it matters); but at one point he laments the fall in popularity amongst collectors in collecting single authors. Or maybe he just observed this trend. Is it a trend? I don't know...

People have been collecting for centuries. And while people used to collect, say, Shakespeare or Dickens, it seems clear that during the 20th century there was the rise of the collector who basically collected 'great works' in First Edition format; the collector with a lot of money and a wide taste in literature.

So they would have a few first editions of Joyce, and a First Edition of Tolkien etc (-or at least they would aim to have that in their collection!). They wouldn't collect multiple titles by one author. They would maybe only have LotRs and The Hobbit by Tolkien in their collection.

I think the point is that, this collector doesn't 'specialise' in any particular author or title or publishing house or field. So they are generalists; reading and collecting widely.

I only (really) collect Tolkien and H. P. Lovecraft. Tolkien certainly differs in a few respects, but I can't think why the Tolkien collector should be any more of a completeist than any other collector. I think it just seems more neurotic, as they end up acquiring multiple copies of the same title.

This would happen (I guess) with any single author collector, but wouldn't happen if you were, say, an Arkham House (publisher) completeist. As this would require you to acquire all AH books; but this would be many authors, all of which could be read. There would be very little duplication of actual written material.

Tolkien didn't really publish (or write) that much I don't think. His work is only really published by one publisher: GA&U>UH>HC. Yes, there are the academic publications, but in the main Tolkien has a small body of work published with a single publisher.

Ultimately completeists (and I probably speak mainly of myself here!) are simply transferring this trait of their personality onto their collecting I believe. If they weren't collecting books, they would be collecting or ferreting away at something else. Something equally useless in the eyes of others.

Personally, I now have about 75+ copies of The Silmarillion; and I don't collect translations! I can't provide any adequate explanation of why...

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Posted on: 2009/9/1 3:46
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Re: Arda Reconstructed conversation
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Nothing like Carl to throw in a few quotes from personal correspondence with CT!

The most interesting part of all is The History of the Silmarillion document that Christopher made post-1977, with all variant readings etc. Stunning revelation I think!

For those who can't be bothered reading the discussion that rattled back and forth between Carl & Doug, here is what Christopher stated in his Estate Report; quoted by Carl (with permission):

In my Foreword to The Peoples of Middle-earth, pp.ix-x, I referred to the forerunner of the History [of Middle-earth] as 'an entirely "private" study, without thought or purpose of publication: an exhaustive investigation and analysis of all the materials concerned with what came to be called the Elder Days, from the earliest beginnings, omitting no detail of name-form or textual variation.' This work, which I called The History of the Silmarillion, and which I began after the publication of my 'constructed' text, runs to more than 2600 very closely typed pages, and it does not even touch on the Second and Third Ages. When the possibility arose of publishing at least part of this work, in some form, it was obvious that it would have to be heavily reduced and curtailed, and the part of The History of Middle-earth dealing with the Elder Days is indeed a new presentation of The History of the Silmarillion, and a severe contraction of it, especially in respect of the sheer quantity of variant manuscript material reproduced in full.

-Christopher Tolkien


The HoME a "severe contraction"! Fascinating stuff...

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Posted on: 2009/9/1 2:42
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Re: The wonders of eBay
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Not sure about that one garm...

But here is a pretty surprising price I thought!

The Hobbit Deluxe Edition - Mint condition, still in original plastic wrap...

Fair enough if an item is scarce. But this edition comes up a fair amount on eBay. There doesn't seem to be any need for paying £127...

BH

Posted on: 2009/9/1 2:03
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