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Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???
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"Collector wrote:

Trotter, I dont know about ebay, I never was there. But it is very dificult to fake a book or a letter from 1968, I never bought a letter/book looking a simple picture, I need to study them."

I didn't mention eBay but it is actually very easy to fake a signature or letter from 1968 and has been done numerous times. Some fakes are very convincing and can even fool hand-writing experts.

An example is the "Hitler Diaries" where three independent handwriting experts claimed that the signatures were genuine. The forger in this case went to a lot more trouble than the "Higgins" letters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Diaries

Look at this article about collecting Tolkien Signatures.

http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/press/fascimilesignatures.htm

"Collector wrote:

Garm, Dr. Higgings was the family doctor of Tolkiens family, and a personal friend. If you never heard about him....

Say no more..."

It looks like everyone apart from you is in the "never heard about him...." category. Please can you tell me where to find out any information about him that links him to Tolkien or even that he ever existed?

Posted on: 2009/11/17 7:22


Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???
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Hello Collector
I am sceptical about these letters as the sellers story just didnt make sense. Ask yourself - why would Tolkien compose letters in Milford to a number of people and then leave them in the loft? Would you do that?

I have never heard of Allington Antiquarian Books but assume you have a connection?

I appreciate that there are experts in handwriting and indeed this is one way of establishing providence but more often than not i find gut instinct kicks in and when the story and facts dont add up then something is wrong.

To be honest i trust the guys who post on this site more than anyone.

I look forward to finding my sleeping book with a genuine tolkien signature in it. I guess my odds are fairly good as there seems to be a lot out there.

An interesting chat indeed.

Posted on: 2009/11/17 5:39


Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???
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Trotter, I dont know about ebay, I never was there. But it is very dificult to fake a book or a letter from 1968, I never bought a letter/book looking a simple picture, I need to study them.

I have a "sleeping book" (sic Laura) from Tolkien, 1ed. Blue ink. and it is very real, all you need is to do a study from a handwriting expert survey.

Thanks to everybody, this a very interesting chat.

Posted on: 2009/11/17 2:25


Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???
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Garm, Dr. Higgings was the family doctor of Tolkiens family, and a personal friend. If you never heard about him....

Say no more...

Posted on: 2009/11/17 2:10


Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???
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Laura, are you skeptical about these letters only because you suposse one friend are not writting letters to another friend? In order to know if a hand sign letter is a fake or not you must do a very deep study, you need a handwriting expert survey. I dont know about Ebay, I never check there, but are you doubting about Allington Antiquarian Books??.

Posted on: 2009/11/17 1:59



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