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Re: Is the old Sillmarrillion in BOLT the same as the new one?
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Indeed, the answer is basically no. I think if you want to put the published Silmarillion in context, you really have to read HoME; altho' the Hx LotRs is perhaps not essential.

Funny Stu, I think (I'm guessing tho', since I was a small child when this series first came out!) most people when the series came out quite like BoLTs; and were quite disappointed at some of the later books. Perhaps because the BoLTs books can be viewed (and read) as stand alone volumes; and don't 'interfere' with the published Silmarillion so much as some of the later volumes do.

Personally I'm the least interested (hard to say that!; still very interested...) in the volumes that cover LotRs, from a 'Middle-earth' perspective i.e. the are really (to me) primary world texts, showing Tolkien the author; very interesting just like Rateliff's Hx Hobbit. But Shaping, MR, Jewels, & Peoples really have an abundance of 'new' material so to speak. These (in my mind) sit in a hazy, indistinct world between primary world Tolkien (biography, author), and secondary world Tolkien (Middle-earth).

This cross-over between primary and secondary reaches it most complex in these later volumes: this 'soup' of redactors, translations, oral tradition, texts, 'lost' texts, multiple texts, history, conflicting versions, condensed story, authorship, editorship, publication etc etc -something which I feel plays out in the real history of the published Silmarillion i.e. the work of father & son (and Kay!). Which I suppose strikes at the heart (if my stab at explaining why I think I like Tolkien made any sense!) of why I'm totally obsessed with The Silmarillion .

BH

Posted on: 2009/2/3 4:40
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2009 Polish Calendars
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Thanks to an update from Richard "Galadhorn" Derdzinski I have added two 2009 calendars from Poland to the Guide database! They are available to order if you get in touch with Richard through the Elendilion website.

Elendilion Calendar 2009

Parmadili Calendar 2009

Elendilion webpage for calendars

They look great!

Posted on: 2009/2/3 1:41
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Re: What do you collect? What type of collector are you?
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Hi Qweniden, and welcome to TCG!

I started out getting the books I remembered as a kid (my parents had some nice early editions of LOTR and Hobbit that I wanted as well), spent a good long time working on his academic works (Nodens, Year's Works, etc.), am now slowing accumulating the old poetry that appeared in obscure journals. Also I am spending a lot of time with the fanzines from the sixties and seventies recently.

Some folks focus on translations, artwork, signatures, toys, action figures, puzzles, books from Tolkien's personal library, you name it! I firmly believe that there is really no way to have absolutely everything (even with infinite funds), so have at, and have fun!

Posted on: 2009/2/2 23:35
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What do you collect? What type of collector are you?
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Hi,

Im new to collecting tolkien books but Im a life long tolkien fan.

Im curious to hear what other people collect? I guess Im in the "completist" mode in that I would want every unique edition of JRRT's writting, not just early printings and collector's editions.

How about you? Is their a theme or focus to what you collect?

Posted on: 2009/2/2 22:29


Re: Is the old Sillmarrillion in BOLT the same as the new one?
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Yep, that means "no". The HoME is largely about the evolution of Tolkien's middle-earth related writings. It wouldn't make much sense to print an identical Silmarillion as part of HoME. I personally don't find BoLT particularly interesting (and I'm surprised that HoME ever made it past that volume). I really enjoyed everything from 'The Return of the Shadow' onwards, but can happily leave the first 5 volumes on the shelf with only the occasional browse...

Stu

Posted on: 2009/2/2 20:14



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