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Re: Signature/Autograph Database?
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This kind of discussion is exactly why I love this site. I can understand Beren's fear of providing resources to forgers. My question served its purpose. Should I have further needs, I now know how many examples Beren has access to.

Just pondering the matter, I wonder how many things we sign in a lifetime? What got me to thinking was the 1500 items in Beren's list. Averaged over his life, that is less than 20 items per year. I'd bet that major sports figures sign 1500 per year. Thanks for the comments all!

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Posted on: 2008/12/20 6:42
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Re: need some info please
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Hi Larissa,

depends on which coloring book it is, but in general there are still a lot of these floating around (I think there is an eBay seller in the UK who has a mountain of them, and sells them for about $10 each).

If you can provide a photo/scan of the cover, I might be able to help out a bit more.

Posted on: 2008/12/18 22:03
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I have a mint condition lord of the rings coloring book from 1979...i was wondering if it was worth anything ??

thank you

Larissa

Posted on: 2008/12/18 21:50


Re: Signature/Autograph Database?
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I do agree with Beren and Jeremy. I cherish and guard copies of Beren's overview of the development of Tolkien's signature precisely because he has trusted me with them.

As to the question of fee, I am not a collector of or trader in signatures or signed works. To me, such a database represents knowledge that is of interest to me for satisfying my personal curiousity; additionally, it may enable me to warn or advise people, more importantly, to pinpoint the limits of my expertise. But it does not represent monetary value that I'm likely to realise. On the other hand, it could represent considerable monetary value to the faker, so considerable incentive to him hack, with the necessary security therefor concomitantly expensive. In short, I would expect (indeed almost advise) that a higher fee should be put on this than I would be prepared to pay.

Posted on: 2008/12/18 19:08
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Re: Signature/Autograph Database?
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Personally, I wouldn't pay anything to view such a database, and when it comes down to it, regardless of what security measures you take to prevent people from reproducing or trying to fake the signatures you upload to this website, there are dozens, maybe even hundreds of other sites and pages that contain Tolkien letters and signatures. In addition, many of the auction houses now have archives of many of the Tolkien letters that have sold (or not sold) with pictures and all you have to do (at the most) is sign-up for a free account to view the images. Then you have eBay and random personal pages and the list goes on and on. I think, if anything, this site has done an outstanding job in spotting the fakes and seeking to counter and eliminate them. I think we should continue to be in dialogue about Tolkien signatures and their authenticity, and if that means uploading pictures occasionally, I'm all for it. I can see Beren's point, but I just disagree that a forum like this is going to contribute more to the counterfeiting; in my opinion, the counterfeiting is going to go on whether this site exists or not.

Posted on: 2008/12/18 18:40



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