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REVIEW: The Silmarillion - Thirty Years On
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Just a brief summary for those thinking of buying; thread for comments for those who have read...

The Silmarillion - Thirty Years On
Edited by Allan Turner
Walking Tree Publishers
Pb 162 pp; six articles


This was a good Christmas read; not too heavy, but good scholarship none the less. Focusing only on The Silmarillion.

Opens with Rhona Beare's article A Mythology for England; adapted from her book (J.R.R. Tolkien's The Silmarillion; 1999?). Much improved on the small book (if I'm remembering right; I thought it was very plodding & for children?). Touches nicely on the influence of climate on mythology (i.e. the gloomy north); and contributes a 'significant new piece of research' in exploration of the word earendel.

Michael Drout's article Reflections on Thirty Years of Reading The Silmarillion is a very personal account of Drout's own relationship with this book. Odd to see an article written like this by a leading Tolkien Scholar; very good. Covers some familiar ground with nostalgia & death under discussion; gives plaudits to those parts of The Silmarillion, in terms of style & content, that are often the very parts to come under the most criticism.

Anna Slack's Moving Mandos: The Dynamics of Subcreation in 'Of Beren and Luthien' is a rambling article (not in a bad way!) touching on subcreation in Of Beren & Luthien; focusing on the role of oath & song. The spoken word is also discussed in relation to The Gospels and Tolkien's Ainulindale (In the beggining was the Word...)

Allan Turner states in his introduction that the final three articles are concerned with 'the construction of the text'; touching on the editorial role of Christopher Tolkien and the 1977 text proper.

Michael Devaux's article The Origins of the Ainulindale - The Present State of Research (translated from french by the editor Allan Turner) brings together the threads of current research, many of which are French (and have possibly passed those of us in the UK by). Devaux seems to draw on quite a body of (french) research; discussing Tolkien's Catholicity in respect to his creation myth, whilst dissecting all the different elements through all the versions now available to us (through HoME). Although Tolkien's faith is often mentioned in scholarship, this article strikes me as different; perhaps because of the french perspective.

Jason Fisher's From Mythopoeia to Mythology: Tolkien, Lonnrot, and Jerome is the first article (that I've read) that directly & openly discusses Christopher Tolkien's role as author in the writing of The Silmarillion. As often as he is praised for his editorial role in the book's assembly, not many people discuss in detail his role as (essentially) author. Fisher states 'without Christopher, we might have had a 'Silmarillion', in the loosest sense of that term, but we would not have had The Silmarillion'. The Kalevala & The Latin Vulgate Bible are (as is implicit in the title) also disussed.

Nils Ivar Agoy's Viewpoints, Audiences and Lost Texts in The Silmarillion discusses in detail the idea of The Silmarillion coming down to us as a collection of 'lost texts'; both in a secondary way (within the Legendarium) and in a primary way (in the way the texts have physically come down to Christopher Tolkien, and ourselves). Agoy concludes that the 'lost text technique' simply does not work in The Silmarillion as published; whether Tolkien's aim or not; and that the book should be read as a novel by J. R. R. Tolkien.

All in a very good selection of articles; and very current (CoH is mentioned). The book itself is also of good quality; well bound; decent paper. Resonable priced at <£10.

BH

[Thanks to Pieter at TolkienLibrary.com for original recommendation in site updates!]

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Re: Blank / Dummy Silmarillions
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£196 if I recall!

By far the most interesting (from a bibliographical perspective; although haven't seen it) Silmarillion variant to appear on Ebay over the past 3-4 years. (Dummy copies generally don't seem to come up on Ebay that often do they.)

On the subject of Silmarillion's: why on earth are later Folio printings going for so much (I know it was Christmas; & there not that expensive)?? I'm looking for a few of the later impressions; just to examine - but all impressions now seem to be going for £20-50! No bargains seem to be had...

By bargain I mean <£5

BH

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Re: Blank / Dummy Silmarillions
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I bought that one

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Re: Blank / Dummy Silmarillions
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Yes, yes - very good (one would like a peek at your Silmarillion Collection Deagol... ) - every now & then some other copy (with a pre-publication letter!) is casually mentioned.

Billing would surely have made a dummy/variant copy of some sort though. They would have made one in order to send to GA&U themselves. Much like that very pre(pre)-publication BCA 1978 Silmarillion that came up a while back; with printers/typographers notes on the inside cover etc...

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Re: A new collection
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tom bombadilo said:

I happen to love your website, one thing I am disappointed about is that there isn't really a rarity estimate on the books. Obviously everything is worth different price depending on the buyer, but it would be nice to have a ballpark rarity range to know if you are being scammed. Aside from that I was the most informative site I have seen so far.

As originally planned, the site was going to be a price guide, but when you get down to it, price guides are just too subjective to be meaningful - what sort of price? what I would pay, what is paid on eBay or abe.com, what are dealers asking, etc. Rarity scales have similar problems. In addition, it does not necessarily follow that just because a book is rare that it is worth a great deal. The approach I have taken is to give details of print run size where known. I am slowly extracting additional imformation from Allen & Unwin's records and adding it to the site as it becomes available.

If you want to evaluate a book's 'rareness' I would suggest going to Bookfinder or ABEbooks. The copies offered there, or the lack of them will give you a fair idea of prices.

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