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Re: Dodgy Children of Hurin Bookplates on Ebay
Quite a regular
2010/2/24 14:32
Posts: 58
Just thought I would add to the discussion a little.

I managed to procur a few of the US Deluxe Editions with the signed bookplate from a couple of people who worked for one of the business involved in the release at Waterstones. Part of my purchase agreement was not to divulge the identity of the individuals or what company they worked for. Since then I have come to the conclusion that there were a number of extra's of the bookplates that did not make it into the trade edition or deluxe editions that were sold at the release date party(s). Once all of the UK books were sold, they were stuck into the only available Deluxe Editions, (which got a higher price) which happened to be the US version which was released a few days before I received them (after shipping from the UK). I have no reason to believe that they are fakes, as I have compared them to many copies in my own collection/inventory, and they appear to be genuine in every respect.

One other point to make for discussion purpose's only. I also discovered that the newly stuck down plates were very easy to lift and replace. I had one book that had a bad binding error, and I tried to lift it, and it was quite easy to remove. Just a little bit of carefull pulling from one corner, and the whole bookplate liften right off, leaving no residue, and was able to stick back into it's current residence, still in my personal collection.

Also in the US, if you could not make the signing even in New York, you could simply call in and place an order for up to two of the signed copies and charge it to your credit card. Luckily I figured this out a couple of days before, and managed to get two direct from the bookseller Barnes & Noble. Just thought I would mention that, as anyone could have purchased that way. Maybe next time around someone will benefit from that knowledge.

Also, I have run across about every variation possible on the Alan Lee signatures, date, no date, signed to the bookplate, not signed on the bookplate but on the title page, extra drawing by AL done on the front endpaper, etc. Just about anything you could think of he would do, given the time. With the number of signing he attended with a few days of release the number of permutations is almost endless.


Posted on: 2010/9/5 14:16

Re: What should I spend my £100 on- just for fun
Quite a regular
2009/7/7 13:15
From Scotland
Posts: 53
I have a re-bound 1936 Julienne and and the EETS Katerine.

The Preface to the Katerine says: "When SRTOd'A first planned this edition over forty years ago, she had hoped to have the collaboration of JRR Tolkien, the academic supervisor of her work on Seinte Julienne but, in the event, (initially becasue of the war of 1939-1945) he took no part in it"

So the Katerine has some (but limited) Tolkien interest.

As garm points out, twe books is a better choice from an academic point of view.

Like him, I would hesitate to advise you but have to say the 1936 Julienne is very rare in my experience and passing up a chance to get one would be hard. You may well find a copy of the Katerine again in the future.

Posted on: 2010/9/5 14:14


Re: What should I spend my £100 on- just for fun
Home away from home
2008/10/5 18:02
Posts: 563
I'd buy the Return of the King.

Posted on: 2010/9/5 13:48

Re: What should I spend my £100 on- just for fun
Home away from home
2007/4/29 5:29
Posts: 667
I shan't presume to advise you as to what you should do, but let's see what comes up in a general discussion. I don't know whether the number of copies of a reprint of RotK is much of a factor. On the other hand, it's reasonably early, and- a bibliographical oddity - the fourth imp. was the last to have the impression printed on the spine of the dustwrapper. Oddly, this does not occur on copies of FR, nor TT; nor even the 1st impression of RK. it's just, well, odd.

As for the d'Ardenne books - I don't know. I would suggest you go for what makes you happiest; which I guess would be the two books, given your specialist interests. I believe Tolkien did give Simonne a large anount of help with St Julienne; indeed he ought to have been listed as a co-editor, but he refused, because Simonne had a better chance of a chair at Liege if she'd been down as sole editor.

Of course, it's easy for me to talk - I've copies of RK, and both editions of Julienne (but not Katerine - yet)

*edit - just got my copies of Julienne out - looking at the preliminaries, I see that both have identical Prefatory Notes (including thanks to Elaine griffiths as well as Tolkien). But the EETS has in addition a page of Corrigenda, which might prove useful in your studies.

Posted on: 2010/9/5 12:22


Re: What should I spend my £100 on- just for fun
Just can't stay away
2008/5/2 5:55
From Belgium
Posts: 136
I'm in a dilemma here, and I'd like your opinions/advices, as I really don't know what to do.
Every year I do a summer job and from the money I earn, I take a part to spend on things I want. This year there are two things: my guitar project (I'm building an electric guitar) and some books, of course. Unfortunately, the guitar building project is (much) more expensive than I thought it would be.
With the 'book money' I have already bought a copy of the Ancrene Riwle (1955, Burns & Oates, with d/j) and it should arrive this week. I have now still got ca. £30 to spend on, but there are three 'deals' I have to choose from, and I find that quite hard.

Choice 1 is a 1st/4th of The Return of the King in good-very good condition (with dustjacket).
I want this one because: it would be my first 1st edition copy of The Lord of the Rings and it seems to have had quite a limited run (about 3200).
I doubt because: isn't it silly to buy just the third book and not having the other two? Wouldn't it give a feeling of deficiency?

Choice 2 consists of two books: Þe Liflade and te Passiun of Seinte Iuliene and Seinte Katerine (both published for the Early English Society), by S.R.T.O. d'Ardenne.
I want these two because: I am interested in Old and Middle English texts (studying English and German linguistics and philology at Ghent University). Also I am intrigued by Tolkien's more scholar writing and his 'significance' to these books. Also these books seem nice additions to my 'collection'.
I doubt because: what significance has really Tolkien had to these books? I know only this:
"D’Ardenne’s Þe Liflade ant te Passiun of Seinte Iuliene, for example, has been said to represent Tolkien’s most fully articulated thoughts on Middle English (Carpenter 140-41), and her edition of Seinte Katerine was begun with Tolkien’s collaboration. (Michael Drout, Tolkien Studies IV)
Is it really worth buying those, with regards to Tolkien's significance in them?

Choice 3 is the original 1936 publication of d'Ardenne's Þe Liflade and te Passiun of Seinte Iuliene.
I want this one because: of the reasons stated in choice two, plus it seems to me it has more of a collectable value than the E.E.S. edition (being scarcer and harder to find).
I doubt because: I'm not sure it is the same text of the E.E.S. edition. Also it costs about £40 which means I have to go beyond my budget of £30 and this for just one book. (If I go for deal 2 I have two books, including this one, though a later and less scarce edition)

Your opinions - and perhaps advices - on this somewhat annoying matter would be most helpful!

PS: If pictures would help you, please ask and I'll put some here that I received from the books' sellers.

Posted on: 2010/9/5 11:49
'Love not too well the work of thy hands and the devices of thy heart; and remember that the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West, and cometh from the Sea'

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