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Re: Help on Saruman and Radagast question
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Well, the list of possibilities narrows... in The Peoples of Middle-earth Christopher points out on p. 384 (US 1st HC, follow the 'Radagast' index entry for other editions) that immediately preceding the sentence printed in Unfinished Tales ("We must assume...") Tolkien says (and I am quoting Christopher's phrasing here, not JRRT) "there is no possibility that some of them were Eldar 'of the highest order of power', rather than Maiar."

I hadn't seen the full text online for that Mythlore article that Jason refers to - thanks for the reminder/tip Dior! A great read - though it explicitly calls Radagast a Maia without discussion.

It still is a significant phrase ("assume") - must keep digging to figure out if he was just playing with the idea of one or more being a Vala, or if some of them were "other" (what other?)

There is another single word that Tolkien uses in a particular quote that I am pursuing on a completely different subject - may try to get it published in Beyond Bree's humor issue, as it is not serious research.

Posted on: 2007/12/17 2:29
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Re: Help on Saruman and Radagast question
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Hey Rowns,

Lingwë recently discused Radaghast on his website here

discussing two sources, The History of the Hobbit and an article in Mythlore.

Cheers
Dior

I like the new Research Questions forum...Great idea!!

Posted on: 2007/12/17 1:17


Re: Help on Saruman and Radagast question
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To clarify for those who were wondering...

Tolkien says "We must assume that they [the Istari] were all Maiar" (Unfinished Tales, p. 394 of US 1st HC ed.) This comment is dated around 1972 by Christopher in a description of the source of the quote.

So even JRRT must "assume" they are Maiar. What else could they be? Has anyone written on this, or just taken the assumption as fact and never discussed?

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Metapraxis,

Good to hear that I'm not the only Aussie on the discussion board. Dr Quartz from Canberra used to post here, but I haven't heard form him in a while.
Drop me an email (below) if you want.

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Posted on: 2007/12/16 22:48


Re: The Super Deluxe Children of Hurins are out
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Yep, north and south are pretty arbitrary, but given that those pesky Europeans drew the first world maps (and they also favour that annoying Mercatur projection which makes Western Europe look huge and Australia look the size of a dry-roasted peanut), I have grown to accept that I am dwelling on the underbelly of the planet :)

More importantly, my second [Australia-bound] copy of the CoH arrived today (number 97 -- which is kind of nice as my two copies neatly add up to 100). It's an impressive book and the colour is much nicer than it appeared in some of those eBay photos.

Now we all just have to hope that HC don't give up on trying to sell them direct and end up putting them on Amazon heavily discounted. That would be kind of annoying!

Stu

Posted on: 2007/12/16 20:41



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