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Re: We have pleasure in sending the accompanying book for review...
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For the review copies (Advance Reading Copies or ARCs for short) that I have seen for the HOME series, they are mostly non-finished text bound in simple paper wrappers - clearly sent out much further in advance than the Silmarillion copy I saw.


Hi Rowns,

I presume technically speaking, that these would really be Uncorrected Proof Copies as opposed to Review Copies.

I do not know the strict definitions, and although a 'Proof' copy may be sent out for review, I would consider a 'Review' copy to be identical to the regular trade edition, whereas a 'Proof' copy may be bound differently and have many textual differences - and be an earlier state of the edition?

But I would think it important to distinguish between a 'Review' and 'Proof' Copy.

Have I got this right or are there circumstances whereby an ARC would have textual differences to the First Trade Printing?

Remy.

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I dug up my notes on the US Silmarillion.

The book and letter were sent out August 10, 1977. The book appeared to be identical to the trade 1st edition in all regards, but I don't have it in hand to verify 100% any more. Given the size of the print run, there is essentially no chance whatsoever that they were still making changes to the text at this late date.

For the review copies (Advance Reading Copies or ARCs for short) that I have seen for the HOME series, they are mostly non-finished text bound in simple paper wrappers - clearly sent out much further in advance than the Silmarillion copy I saw. I did have a review copy of The Book of Lost Tales Part I that was just one of the trade 1st edition copies (printed in Great Britain) with an ink stamp on the top of the page block that said "not for resale".

Douglas Anderson in The Annotated Hobbit (p. 15 Revised and Expanded edition, 2002) states that the book was printed in June, but withheld from release until the fall in order to let review copies be sent out and to target the Christmas market.

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Hi Khamul,

In reply to your first post. I don't think I have review copies from any of the earlier editions, but have a few from more recent publications (all with review slips):

1992 Tolkien Family Album
1998 Silmarillion, illustrated by Ted Namsmith
2002 History of Middle Earth - 3 Vols Large Print
2007 Hobbit 50th Anniversary
2007 Children of Hurin (US Edition).

And of lesser interest, review copies of various books of Tolkien Criticism.

In reply to your second question, I always assumed (though am not absolutely 100% certain) that review copies were just part of the First Print Run and as such no different from a regular first print and just sent out for review prior to the actual publication date.

Remy.

Posted on: 2008/6/15 9:22


Re: Help: Tolkien Deluxe Edition Collection Possibilities?
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Hi Rowns,

Thanks for your quick answers, it's helping me a lot.


Not quite sure what you mean? HarperCollins does Deluxe editions of titles that they think will sell enough copies to make it worth while. If they think this book will sell a lot of deluxe copies, they'll make it.


I guess I'm trying to figure out what books are closely related to each other that you have to read them all to fully understand everything. For example, to read The Lord of the Rings, you really have to read The Hobbit first. Then you can read The Silmarillion to get a better understanding, and if you want even more, you can read The History of Middle Earth Vol. I, II, III.

The two books that I'm not sure are closely related to the above books are The Children of Hurin & The Tales from the Perilous Realm, so are they related enough or not? And since you mentioned it, what about Unfinished Tales, is that closely related to the above books too?

It's good to realize that what you said is probably right on the money, Harper Collins does deluxe editions of titles that will sell enough, whether they are really related to each other or not, and I will most likely collect all their deluxe editions. I'm just trying to see which version is better, A or B:

Version A are six books that are very very closely related to each other.
Version B are obviously missing The History of Middle Earth Vol. I, II, III (which is why I guess I'm hoping for them to release these in this format sometime in the future) but have The Children of Hurin instead (which again I'm wondering if it's related enough to the original six books, as well as The Tales from the Perilous Realm & Unfinished Tales).

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Re: Help: Tolkien Deluxe Edition Collection Possibilities?
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Hi Jay,

an interesting article on the Tales From the Perilous Realm with insider information can be found at The Tolkien Library here:

Tales_from_the_Perilous_Realm on TolkienLibrary.com

In it Pieter mentions that it is still quite uncertain if the Deluxe edition will ever get made.

For your questions:

1) Can we assume that deluxe edition A is complete, meaning The Children of Hurin (and Tales from the Perilous Realm) will probably not be released as deluxe edition A?


Yes (in my mind). There is no known plan to go back to the leather/india paper format to match newer titles to this.

2) Is the following link of Tales from the Perilous Realm deluxe edition B?


If it gets made, it should be. Note that there is no guarantee that it will match the exact size and format of previous editions. Even for your "type A" some of the books were different heights, so they don't look quite right next to each other on the shelf.

3) Is Tales of the Perilous Realm related to the original four books for it to be released as deluxe edition B?


Not quite sure what you mean? HarperCollins does Deluxe editions of titles that they think will sell enough copies to make it worth while. If they think this book will sell a lot of deluxe copies, they'll make it.

4) History of Middle Earth Vol. I, II, III originally started getting released since 1983, meaning it's like the 25th anniversary right now, and they are definitely related to the original four books, so are there any plans for them to be released as deluxe edition B?


Not that I know of. They have been released in original HC, paperback, the three india paper/black slipcase edition, then a boxed set of the three volume set in black dustjackets, then the same 3 hardcovers in different colors as individual volumes. I'd say the deluxe market is pretty tapped out for these books, but you never know.

5) What about other books from Tolkien that are related to the original four books for them to be released as deluxe edition B in the future?


I believe HarperCollins has said that there is not enough market for Unfinished Tales to be put out in a deluxe edition, but I can't find a source for this memory. Beyond that, since The Children of Húrin did quite well, I would not doubt if someone said that Christopher was working on another polished version of something from his father's legendarium.

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