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Re: UK First Edition Silmarillion Dust Wrapper Colours
Home away from home
2007/2/10 7:19
Posts: 166
I think that the topic of Silmarillion variants, though subtle and somewhat subjective, is an important and under-discussed topic. So many copies of the first impression were printed that collectors will ultimatley favor the true first state (Clowes Variant 1). I personally have 3 Clowes and 2 Billings copies of the first edition / first printing. I have one copy of the first variant Clowes and two copies of the second variant. My copy of the first variant (containing headband, blue topstain, and cloth boards) has a very dark blue dustwrapper, nearly black. The two copies of the second variant have a noticably lighter, but still navy blue wrapper. My copies of the domestic (Billings) edition are very close to the second variant Clowes wrapper. It is much easier for me to see the difference between the two Clowes variants, than between the Clowes second variant and the Billings copies. The subtle differences might be very important to those who are trying to acquire all possible variants. However, for the purpose of valuation, I think that the Clowes first variant is most important, and fortunately, most easily distinguishable.

My real reason for this post, however, is to see if anyone knows of textual variation between the first and second variant Clowes editions. On Tolkienbooks.net, it is stated,

"Minor textual differences indicate that Variant 1 was printed before Variant 2."

I have no idea what these differences may be, but would be very interested in knowing. This could come into play if ever trying to identify re-bound copies that might have been stripped of the headband, topstain, and cloth boards. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Posted on: 2008/3/28 10:56

A sign?
Just popping in
2006/6/29 6:24
From Italy
Posts: 14
A friend of mine bought a book, in which he found a sign (see the picture). He asked me if the sign could be JRRT's. I don't know if JRR ever signed "John Reuel", so I think this may be a sign of his son, John Francis Reuel Tolkien, instead.

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What do you think?

Posted on: 2008/3/28 10:36

Re: Quiet in here
2006/5/26 20:36
From California, USA
Posts: 1212
I've been completely swamped for almost a month now (it seems you noticed, since you started this thread. ). Too much to do for the day job recently (including a week in Hong Kong and China), as well as ramping up to take over the fulfillment responsibilities for the Mythopoeic Society Press.

So, I really wish I could make the ADC event! Maybe next year. Hopefully my job will bring me to the UK soon anyways (or even Belgium to visit Beren) but I only know what I am doing next week at best, making plans further away seems fruitless.

I'll take this opportunity to ask what people want to see more of around here - I've been poking under the hood for the Guide database (minor changes to content and the look and feel), posted a few articles/interviews, etc. Do you use the News section? Does that belong in the forum as well as a category, rather than a completely different menu structure? Does anyone use the Tolkien Online RSS feed experiment? Etc. Any feedback welcome.

Posted on: 2008/3/26 12:37
- Jeremy

Re: Quiet in here
2007/8/16 4:56
From Scotland
Posts: 1537
I think I'm okay; perhaps everyone has given up on all this collecting lark! (chuckle )

[Not that your interested I'm sure...] but I've just been tiding up arrangements regarding attendance at ADC event in Moreton. I enjoyed myself more than I expected last year; so hopefully this year should be as interesting & enjoyable.

More artists; more books; and at least I know where I'm going this time! Pieter appears to be doing his talk on Tolkien signatures on the Sunday (morning?; nobody seems sure!); and I'm looking forward to that (as long as it is in the morning & I'm still there.) Balance seems to have shifted (ever so slightly) towards the centre ground in the ART:BOOKS balance! (or perhaps not...)

If anyone is interested in meeting up (in whatever capacity book collectors meet up!), be happy to put a face to a (ebay; TCG; real!) name.


Posted on: 2008/3/26 10:52
You drive a hard bargain – you can have it for £10 all-in – one consolation (for you) is that you do not have to hear the cries of my children, for bread...

The Return of the Shadow frontispiece – Earliest extant Map of the Shire
Hello. First time posting. I hope I might call upon the expertise of other Tolkien enthusiasts to help me with a conundrum.

I have a question regarding the frontispiece to Volume VI of The History of Middle-earth, The Return of the Shadow. Does anyone know where I might find a scan of that frontispiece online?

I recently bought the whole 12-volume slew of The History of Middle-earth (Houghton Mifflin editions), and roughly half of those volumes are missing their frontispieces. I've been able to find scans of all the ones I'm missing, save one: the earliest extant Map of the Shire, which is the frontispiece of (or the first illustration in) The Return of the Shadow, vol. 6. That elusive map seems nowhere to be found.

If anybody happens to know where a (largish, decent-quality) scan of this map might be found, or if someone could be so kind as to scan and upload (or email me) a copy from one of their editions of the book, I would be eternally grateful. Needless to say, after shucking out $250+ for the twelve volumes, I'm more than a little disappointed that I didn't get the complete package. Such is the way of things, I guess; especially when 'economy' is involved.

I can be reached by email at: imaginative@yahoo.com
I am very much obliged for any assistance that can be offered on this matter.


Posted on: 2008/3/26 10:15

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