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Re: Amazon.co.uk has Children of Húrin Super Deluxe
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Hello all,
a few comments :

Canadian editions of CoH were published by HC Canada, and state as much on the copyright page. Though they are in all other ways identical, they are identifiably not British imports.

Perhaps I should keep my mouth shut so as not to shoot myself in the foot, but I also wonder how it is that retailers outside the US can sell to US residents.

Regardless of trade rights issues (and even if HM hadn't put out BCE size editions), it certainly is both incorrect and wrong to call up a HM information page when a search for a HC ISBN is made. They require different ISBNs because they are different books, and it is misleading for a retailer to re-direct searches to what it wants visitors to see - and, if this is a slippery slope, it could void half the work that went into my website.

HC sold perfectly exclusive rights to HM - with it already on the market, the time to get special permission for "Super-Deluxe" to be sold in the US is past. However, last week I wrote a somewhat bitter red-headed-US-stepchild commentary to store.tolkien.co.uk anyway, and got a personal reply/apology from David Brawn. I am now very, very slightly less bitter

"We are hoping to produce further special or limited editions in the future, and (...) I hope we will be able to address some of your concerns."

Perhaps once the book is in hand I will be another very small bit less bitter . . . :D

Skwish
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Posted on: 2007/11/28 6:52


Re: Amazon.co.uk has Children of Húrin Super Deluxe
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[Thanks for that info. Rowns]

I wasn't really talking about the Super-deluxe editions in particular though. My point was, that if US buyers could purchase HoME deluxe editions (books which HM must hold the rights for in the US?), why is this any different? (particularly if HM have no intention of releasing their own Super-deluxe; couldn't they allow distribution in this case?)

The HoME deluxe editions don't constitute new editions as such (Yes/No?); they didn't even have a new preface or introduction. So surely HM held the rights to distribute these in the US?; or conversely HC didn't hold the rights for them in the US, and US customers would have had the same problem as they have now? (with CoH Super-deluxe). But you could buy them and get them sent to US!

Is this warped logic? Or is it simply that rights issues are different for individual titles? (Is HoME example exceptional because of the titles being collected together?). Or is it something more specific; like the fact that HC are distributing the titles themselves? (and not through a wholesalers).

BH

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Hmmm, no sale on either of those auctions (shocking!)

Two offers were declined on the Italian auction, though. Hopefully they were sane offers. Sometimes you just have to walk away from a good book at an outrageous price...

Posted on: 2007/11/27 17:32
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Re: Amazon.co.uk has Children of Húrin Super Deluxe
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The HoME deluxe editions were released through the normal UK wholesale distribution channels. I got mine through Amazon.co.uk (shipped to the USA). Sometimes shipping is cheaper getting the books through Amazon.ca, as it seems that the UK editions are more regularly available there than the US ones (I don't think Houghton Mifflin owns the Canadian distribution rights.)

I don't know how the other super-deluxe signed editions were put out in prior years, though. Anyone recall?

Posted on: 2007/11/27 17:22
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[Sorry one last thing...] So how were HoME deluxe editions released? Were they available to US buyers direct at the time?

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