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Re: Alexander Autographs
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I sent the following email to the Auction House about the item above.

I am concerned about one of the lots in your upcoming autograph auction on January 20-21st 2010.

Sale 40 Lot 1160 J. R. R. TOLKIEN (1892 - 1973) British author known especially for his works The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Very fine A.N.S. on an oblong sheet measuring 8 1/2" x 3 1/2", in full: "If you would like a signature for 'The Lord of the Rings,' you can stick this in with my good wishes. J. R. R. Tolkien 20/6/73". Beautifully penned the year of his death with a fine flourished signature. Pristine condition. Estimate $ 1,000-1,200

The problem is that this item has been extensively reproduced to a very high quality, indeed I have the same 'signed' letter, and it is highly likely that the copy you have for sale is also a reproduction. A lot of Tolkien dealers gave away this reproduction with Tolkien books over the last twenty years.

I have put some more information on the Tolkien Collectors Guide Website about the issue including a picture of it being given away with another book http://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... ost_id=5721#forumpost5721 Regards Andrew


I think I have asked this before, but does anyone know who owns the original of this item.

Posted on: 2010/1/8 4:46


Re: Alexander Autographs
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Jlong wrote:
Some letters and signed books are available for sale through Alexander Autographs this month.

Tolkien signature:
http://auctions.alexautographs.com/as ... +++++1160+&refno=+++64308


This signature has been discussed on here before. I believe that quite a few collector's including myself have the same signed item and a very convincing reproduction it is too. I think they are trying to sell a very common reproduction here.

Here is another copy of the signed item.

http://www.hobbit.ca/UK111e-signed.jpg

Posted on: 2010/1/7 22:17


Re: LOTR Millenium Edition Books
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I think laurel is correct in that you are unlikely to find the 7 books of the millennium edition sold separately, you would have to buy a full set. The copy that laurel found on eBay is the US edition which tends to be cheaper than the UK version as well.

Posted on: 2010/1/2 2:15


Re: Tolkien Signature
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I had already reported all three of cavorite51 items to eBay.

Selected Counterfeits and copyright violations, Bootlegs and counterfeit media, Counterfeit autographs, though Fraudulent listings is also just as true.

eBay really do not like you doing this though, they give you 50 characters to describe what is wrong with the item, you can't possibly describe what is wrong in that small number of characters.

Posted on: 2010/1/2 2:12


Re: Tolkien Signature
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By an amazing coincidence to my mind the two worst eBay culprits for fake letters and signatures are both selling the same fake letter.

cavorite51 fake
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Letter-Signed-b ... tible?hash=item2eaa2d3875

classic_art_uk fake
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-TOLKIEN-SIGNE ... tible?hash=item439c045ad6

It also looks like Higgins has turned into Mrs Wilding as we now have two very bad fake letters to her as well.

http://www.autographauctions.co.uk/bi ... p?SaleRef=0009&LotRef=450

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Letter-Signed-b ... tible?hash=item2eaa2d36c9

I just noticed this as well, nothing to do with Tolkien (like all these letters really), but probably by the same individual as above.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IAN-FLEMING-SIG ... tible?hash=item439c3c0fcd

The address is not overly helpful in the letter, I don't know how anyone could deliver to that address as it is too vague, but if you look at the bottom of the letter, the phone number is really strange (Telephone Terminus 1234). Terminus is the end of the line, usually a bus garage or railway station not someone's house.

Posted on: 2010/1/1 2:01



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