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Assistance required with Fellowship of the Ring UK 1st Editions
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I noticed on Ebay a seller has a copy of the FOTR 1st/1st http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FELLOWSHIP-OF-T ... 29223QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem in quite poor condition but some of the best photographs that I have ever seen of this edition (about 50 in total).

I own a 2nd, 4th impression and Readers Union FOTR and I know that one of differences between the 1st Impression and the later impressions are the Elvish inscriptions on the title page (Hammond page 94).

Both my 2nd and 4th Impression books have a problem with the Top inscription in that the far left line of vertical dots is missing, but these are shown in the Reader Union edition. I have attached a picture showing the difference betwen the impressions, look at the top left of the two images.

This looks to be another undocumented mistake that was made when the book was reset by Jarrold and Son's without the knowledge of the publisher of Tolkien for the 2nd Impression.

If you have any early pre 1960 FOTR's Can you have a look at your copy? I would be intested to know when this was fixed and the 4 vertical dots were shown again on the page.

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Posted on: 2006/9/3 1:36
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UK Tolkien Diaries
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I am trying to collect all the UK Tolkien Diaries and about to write to Harper Collins to find out when they started producing these Diaries.

I think the first one was in the early 90's (1992) by Grafton but if anyone knows any earlier UK diaries then I would be delighted to hear about them.

I am also thinking about a Diary website, but as they are so similiar to the Calendars do people think this would be useful?

Thanks

Andrew (Trotter)

Posted on: 2006/8/29 12:21
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Re: Signed Hobbit?
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It was sold this time, for $160, in my opinion, the buyer was overcharged by $159.99 for this item. Expect to see it re-appear again on Ebay in the not to distant future.

Posted on: 2006/8/13 1:31
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1st Issue of Unfinished Tales
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I was looking at this item on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tolkien-J-R-R-U ... 20045QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and wonder whether the description is accurate.

"Published in London: George Allen & Unwin. [1980]., 1980. 1st edition, (export edition), 1st state of text. Octavo, original reddish-brown cloth titled in gilt on spine panel.472 pp, index, folding map at rear.

The correct 1st issue, done for export, with no price on the dust wrapper flap. Unrecorded state with the text on page 234 printed inaccurately, with the first part of each letter on the left-hand side of the text missing.

The dust wrapper also differs in that this issue has no blue shading on the spine, and front flap. This issue is not mentioned in Hammond & Anderson's extensive bibliography of Tolkien, and as the printing on page 234 is an error and the dust wrapper is unfinished - the blue colouring is completly left out of the spine- this issue may be assumed to be the 1st state. A very good copy in a very good dust wrapper. A choice copy of a rare book. "

I know that all copies of this book had no price on the dust-wrapper, my copy has a A&U Price Sticker for £7.50 so there is no evidence that this is a special export copy and I also know that Deagol mentions the text on page 234 and the blue colour problem with the dust-wrapper on his site http://www.tolkienbooks.net/html/unfinished_tales_0.htm

So is there any evidence that this is the correct 1st issue, or could this be a pre-release issue?

Posted on: 2006/8/13 1:25
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Re: Tolkien Signatures in General
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I agree with Parmastahir's comments and that you have a real signed calendar with good provenance, but the issue is that a lot of signed items have no provenance and that Tolkien's signature is very easy to fake and adds considerable value to a signed item.

Consider this scenario, I have a early 'Fellowship of the Ring' which I could sell for about £50-100 on Ebay. If I wanted to get a lot more money for this then I could do the following.

Look for names of Professor's in Oxford who were there at the same time as Tolkien and who are no longer alive, Fake a letter from one of their relatives stating that Tolkien had signed the book for this Professor who he knew at Oxford, and insert a fake signature into my book.

If this came up for sale, how would you know if it was authentic. At the moment Forger's do not appear to go to this much trouble, witness the Seymour Hobbit Forgery, as people are still trusting when it comes to signatures and believe that they are genuine.

As well as collecting Tolkien books, I also collect Stamps. For a long time Stamps have suffered from Fakes, Forgeries, Varieties being manufactured, such as cutting out the centre of a stamp and reversing it and sticking it all back to together. I have some postally used German stamps which are probably 90% forgeries.

To get round this, if I want to sell an expensive stamp, each county in the world has an expertising service, where you can send the stamp to a committee, usually at least three recognised experts, who will check and either authenticate the Stamp or state that it as a fake, for a small fee.

This is probably the long term solution for Tolkien signatures as well.

Posted on: 2006/8/13 0:57
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