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Re: Hobbit Signed Book ['1966 U.S. Ed., 29th Printing']
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Beren should add this to his eBay letter list too! There's no such thing as "No returns accepted". EBay are governed by distance selling rules (or whatever it's called) like any other UK internet seller. My own experience is that sellers stating this are still made to give refunds by eBay if your case is reasonable in any case e.g. it was mis-described. But, I suppose your right Trotter, auctions stating this are to be avoided --you always have to question why the seller would state this.

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Posted on: 2010/8/5 6:23
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Re: Hobbit Signed Book
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& again...

I'm pretty sure, when you said you recognised this item, that this was The Hobbit being offered by flatsigned.com at the same time as that signed Silmarillion. The Silmarillion sold, but (since I didn't note the final price) maybe the 'signed' Hobbit failed to meet reserve or something. Much like the LotRs which was relisted multiple times by flatsigned.com.

The Hobbit by Tolkien - SIGNED + signed Tolkien letters
Seller: drdave132613

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Posted on: 2010/8/5 3:39
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Re: A decent way to pick up the Folio editions
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(I know I already mentioned this to you bruffyboy...) While the HarperCollins J. R. R. Tolkien Collection is a nice slipcased collection, it is now not in it's first release format; if you care about this.

According to Beren, who I would think was informed by the publishers, only about 50 of the '1 of 500' actually had the original impression combination: all 1st impressions, LotRs 2nd impression. The remaining assembled sets (of 500) all had a 3rd impression of LotRs. Additionally these were all sold out (--which as I think about it, actually sounds quite unlikely, but...) The sets now on sale are more than likely another 500; only CoH and The Silmarillion are likely to be 1st impressions. The Hobbit is likely a 3rd imp. or later; LotRs 4th or 5th imp.

£140 was a very good deal at the time. Unfortunately most people probably had all the books anyway...

BH

Posted on: 2010/7/30 4:43
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Re: Is Christopher Tolkien's sig a worthy investment?
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I was going to post a rather long reply here bruffyboy giving some prices of all eBay book auctions I noted with Christopher Tolkien's signature; but I ain't got the time (or will!).

I've seen four previous eBay auctions selling CT signed copies of The Silmarilion; specifically copies signed and sold to GA&U employees --like the one you discuss here.

2006: "Father worked for GA&U" £105
2006: Another, same story, but slightly poorer provenance £103
2008: ditto, vg provenance, with documentation £92
[2009: Signed sticker affixed (signed at Cent. Conf.) £102]
2010: Another employee copy, withdrawn.

So, as you can see, there is no previous history of prices like £414. Although this does follow some more recent form of disappointingly high prices paid for copies of The Silmarillion e.g the flatsigned.com Billing copy sold this April, with signed label affixed, some dubious paperwork, and a customised slipcase: $2200 (£1428).

There have of course been many other CT signed books sold on eBay: CoH deluxe, CoH launch day signed copies (UK & US), deluxe Hobbit, S&G, 1998 Silm deluxe, 1982 Silm deluxe, and a few other miscellaneous signed copies, and several copycat fakes. Overwhelmingly, with many of these being published signed copies, and being excellent books in their own right, prices of these are high.

I can post eBay prices (I've noted) for an idea of market form if you like. I think this copy you went for was a good chance at a cheaper CT signature acquisition; not worth £400+ though.

BH

Posted on: 2010/7/25 6:17
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Re: Tolkien books for sale in UK on ebay
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I think there a few odd points here. Clearly when GA&U inserted 4th impressions into the boxset, there were 2nd impressions available; because, as Wayne reminds us, 2nd impressions were so overproduced that when HarperCollins bought UH (who had bought GA&U) there were still copies available --which were covered with slightly downsized John Howe dj's (as Wayne states in Bibliography).

Interestingly, in the 4th impressions I've seen in this boxset, the Silmarillion jacket had been re-priced; (in this case to '£5.95') as you would expect of any Silmarillion of post-1977.

My question to Trotter, and particularly to Wayne & Christina, is: do your copies carry the original printed price? --or have they been re-priced?

My feeling is that when 4th impressions were inserted there would have been 2nd impressions to hand. But, conceivably, when 2nd impressions were inserted, the 4th impressions may have been exhausted.

One last (picky!) point to Trotter. The seperate Clowes 'printings' (as you call them) are states . And, the Unwin Brother 5th impression also had the intermediate GA&U-paper state (like Clowes); as well as the GA&U-cloth state, and the BCA copy. (Unrecorded, I'm sure for space reasons!, by Hammond...)

BH

Posted on: 2010/7/15 15:01
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