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Re: Is the old Sillmarrillion in BOLT the same as the new one?
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Indeed, the answer is basically no. I think if you want to put the published Silmarillion in context, you really have to read HoME; altho' the Hx LotRs is perhaps not essential.

Funny Stu, I think (I'm guessing tho', since I was a small child when this series first came out!) most people when the series came out quite like BoLTs; and were quite disappointed at some of the later books. Perhaps because the BoLTs books can be viewed (and read) as stand alone volumes; and don't 'interfere' with the published Silmarillion so much as some of the later volumes do.

Personally I'm the least interested (hard to say that!; still very interested...) in the volumes that cover LotRs, from a 'Middle-earth' perspective i.e. the are really (to me) primary world texts, showing Tolkien the author; very interesting just like Rateliff's Hx Hobbit. But Shaping, MR, Jewels, & Peoples really have an abundance of 'new' material so to speak. These (in my mind) sit in a hazy, indistinct world between primary world Tolkien (biography, author), and secondary world Tolkien (Middle-earth).

This cross-over between primary and secondary reaches it most complex in these later volumes: this 'soup' of redactors, translations, oral tradition, texts, 'lost' texts, multiple texts, history, conflicting versions, condensed story, authorship, editorship, publication etc etc -something which I feel plays out in the real history of the published Silmarillion i.e. the work of father & son (and Kay!). Which I suppose strikes at the heart (if my stab at explaining why I think I like Tolkien made any sense!) of why I'm totally obsessed with The Silmarillion .

BH

Posted on: 2009/2/3 4:40
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Re: Tolkien Collector
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I was going to say no . Thanks for keeping us up to date Wayne. Look forward to reading them...

BH

Posted on: 2009/2/1 16:24
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Re: Tolkien Signed Book
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I'm sure Beren will be on soon enough! But, it really is (or I'd imagine it is) pretty difficult to sell signatures without coming up against this problem. Decent provenance doesn't always come with all signed books; so what else is a seller to do? Other than, pull a sale if its seriously in question. Of course one could avoid aquiring them in the first place...

(Stu) On the matter of descriptions of condition; heavens! -this is a whole other thread! Any glance at Abebooks reveals that the majority of sellers are incapable (or simply unwilling) to list condition correctly; as well as a number of other important bibliographical points.

Why can't they stick to the guidance give by their respective associations (i.e. the ABAA, ILAB, PBFA etc). 'Mint' is not a recognised description of condition; books & jackets should be given a seperate condition grading etc etc. Hardly any sellers comply with these 'rules'; and many have no interest in answering specific questions you ask (mainly due to their lack of detail). There's also the historical nonsense that is the statement '1rst Edition'. Bah!...

BH

Posted on: 2009/1/29 11:15
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Re: Tolkien Signed Book
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Poor old David Miller! (dunedain; Tolkien Bookshelf)

We should just invite him to screen all his sales/listings thro' this forum first! ; before he lists them on Abebooks, with Tolkien Library, or on eBay. His name(s) does crop up quite frequently...

BH

Posted on: 2009/1/27 3:56
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Re: Christopher Tolkien signature
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...would love to hear from others here as well who have seen more of C's signatures. Indeed! Cheers Rowns!

BH

Posted on: 2009/1/27 3:47
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