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CoH Bookplates from UK Waterstones Launch: Quality?
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I know this was widely discussed at the time; but having trawled back thro' the threads there are unfortunately no images of bookplates, suspected forgeries etc imbedded in the threads.

Can anyone with their own bookplated UK CoH (especially the standards hardback) comment (or even better post an image) on the positioning of Christopher's signature on the bookplate & the print quality of the border and helm.

I've just bought a copy from a reputible dealer; but I want to check this out now while I still have the opportunity to return it.

In this copy the signature looks fine, and is positioned in the top left corner. It is solid black, and even under a magnifying glass there is no sign of any break up in the colour.

But having not seen the bookplate itself in any other copies, I'm a little worried about its appearance. The border is grey. On examination with a magnifying glass it is cleary (like I'd imagine all copied images) made up of horizontal black lines; which are themselves made of strings of little back dots.

The helm is certainly black, but nowhere near as black as the signature. Under a magnifying glass (this is even visible with the naked eye if you look closely) the black areas of the helm (e.g. like the celtic-like motif on the jaw part of the helm) are clearly made from (again) horizontal black lines; uniformely black this time, no dotting. It measure ~26mm (the helm) at its longest point i.e. from the very point of the jaw part to the spikes on the dragons back.

Can anyone confirm whether this is indeed how the bookplate appears in their copy? I'd imagine that the genuine bookplates are in themselves not of the best of quality. But, does anyone remember how good/bad suspected fakes were? I expected the helm to be a lot darker & blacker than the copy I have appears. The photographs don't really capture what I'm describing that well. (The helm photo has actually come out quite poor.)

Also where is the bookplate positioned in UK St. Hb copies? In my copy it is on the grey endpaper, not on the half-title page as I have seen in some copies. I can't remember the details at the time hence all the questions. I know for fact that Trotter was at the Waterstones UK launch!

Information sought.

BH

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Posted on: 2009/2/16 4:21
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Re: Is there no consistancy in Hardcovers?
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Pricey indeed. I was in on the bidding too! But, too rich for me at present. There have definitely (altho' not many) been a couple come up on eBay over the years, and I'm pretty sure they were in the Stu range (<£100 anyway); hopefully a copy can be obtained for less than three figures. Thinking of selling Stu?

BH

Posted on: 2009/2/16 3:08
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Re: Is there no consistancy in Hardcovers?
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...also can't lovingly look at my HOME's any more as I took Khamul's advice and turned them round so the spines are inwards. -Trotter

O dear! I hope I've not made you too unhappy Trotter!? Personally I don't think I could bare the thought of having any of my books literally de-valuing (or rather deteriorating in condition) as they sat on my shelf. Eventually they will be brought forth in all their glory; but until then, and since I have to double up my books in any case!, they can sit behind other less important books.

Having said that, the habit (of turning books around or hiding them behind others) is perhaps driven by my Silmarillion collecting; where there is (perhaps with other books there is not so much!) a real danger of spine fading were they all on open display.

BH

Posted on: 2009/2/5 6:12
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Re: Is there no consistancy in Hardcovers?
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I don't know, The Silmarillion & UT are pretty uniform; dyed top page edges and all. And they don't differ markedly from the early GA&U HoME titles either; especially (again) vol. 1 - IV with their dyed top edges. CoH is, as you state, a book that is seperated from these titles by a few decades (& companies!). Of course you could buy uniform copies of all in their new format: the Hx Hobbit format for want of a better description.

BH

Posted on: 2009/2/3 16:26
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Re: Is there no consistancy in Hardcovers?
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(Altho' I don't actually have a copy...) I suspect Jewels might be suseptible to light damage as well. I always ask about sun fading to any jacketed book with red on the spine.

Trotter, I would keep any red (or redish) spines out of direct light. I personally don't have any of the HoME on display at present. They're in a glass doored bookcase behind numerous other (less important) books (all doubled up -running out of room!). I think they are also turned spine inwards!

I tend to use a lot of 'buffer' books on my shelfs: Unimportant books sitting (cover facing outwards) in front of the collection proper. That way very little light gets at spines. I could have the curtains drawn, but its my front room (lounge/main room) and not always possible/desirable. It seems the easiest solution until such times as I get a house, with a seperate room that can be used exclusively for all the precious collection...

BH

Posted on: 2009/2/3 7:23
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