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Re: 1982 Super Deluxe Silmarillion Question
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Yes, there may not have been 1000 bound; but not 100 signed? How come one proud owner (Deagol) has a signed #91?

BH

Posted on: 2008/12/12 11:39
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Re: 1982 Super Deluxe Silmarillion Question
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There are a couple of points to made here I think (...and I don't have either of these fine editions!)

The copy David Miller has listed on Abebooks was bought on eBay this year for £741. Although the pound has moved a lot recently against the dollar, this is roughly £1600 i.e. more than double the purchase price. How representative is this price, and how long will he have it listed there I wonder?

You say there were so many of those printed (the first edition of The Silmarillion); but, there can only be 1000 copies of the 'first thousand' sheets! I don't personally believe (like you) that this particularly makes a quality edition, or justifies the prices.

But consider (in reality) what your comparing it to (text/literature aside): A new edition of The Hobbit, 50 years after it was first published. How many hardback copies of The Hobbit do you reckon had been produced in that time? What exactly is so special about this edition; other than its limited number?

The 1982 Silmarillion on the other hand, was produced only five years after its publication; using the first sheets of the press. The binding and production (by all accounts) is of the finest quality; perhaps the finest edition GA&U brought out of Tolkien's work.

If you were to compare it to some imagained 1940/50's Hobbit, which had used the first sheets of the very first Hobbit printing; bound into some fabulous edition; limited in number etc etc -then perhaps the comparison would be on equal grounds.

Put it this way, look at the new CoH Super Deluxe (which I paid £350 for). It this worth more than the 1987 Hobbit? Top this up with another £350, and you could almost have bought that #117 Silmarillion...

I think the reasonably low prices for the 1987 Hobbit (in comparison) suggest the edition just does not have the same appeal as the 1982 Silmarillion. Would love to have them both in front of me to pass comment tho'...

BH

Posted on: 2008/12/12 4:28
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Re: HoMe Uncorrected Proof
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An 'Advance Uncorrected Proof' copy of Lays (Houghton Mifflin), sold on eBay earlier this year for £34 (not sure what it was in $; although I'm sure it was from US.) Don't recall much about it, other than the fact that I'd never seen one; and that the final price was pretty low. Jeremy (Rowns) was (if I recall correctly) definitely in on the bidding; don't recall if he won it tho'...

BH

Posted on: 2008/12/10 6:01
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Re: ...and another one
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I agree that as a group we should perhaps make more of an effort to communicate our suspicions regarding various eBay auctions. But, you basically hit the nail on the head with your own comments Beren. Sellers don't reply; and there are plenty of suspect auctions out there. We don't all have the time I guess.

I spend a lot of fruitless time trying to draw various errors (usually regarding Silmarillion auctions) to the attention of sellers, on both eBay and ABE. It can be pretty time consuming though...

BH

Posted on: 2008/12/9 15:02
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Re: Is anyone else unhappy about this?
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I'd agree; there are a few things not quite right with the first listing (although I'm no expert on drawings or signatures; and have no special interest in them.)

Lee's signature is usually always rising from left to right (i.e. isn't written level to page); and almost always in the bottom right of the page. This date equates to Moreton on the Saturday; Lee wasn't anywhere else that day. But, this fact is well known. The date also doesn't look quite right. Again, too straight; a bit 'shaky' looking -as if done quite slowly.

The drawing is okay -mabey a little large; but has anyone else seen Lee do anything else? Lee almost always does this kind of picture: usually large; quite light on the page; and portrait, showing profile.

But dogfark is surely known to someone. Lists a lot of stuff. Haven't heard of anyone questioning their auctions before; although I do recall that other ridiculous auction claim!

BH

Posted on: 2008/12/6 9:59
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