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Re: Hobbit Movie agreed with Peter Jackson (Plus Sequel)
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By all accounts the films sound like a straight split of the book; with no mention (officially from the studios) of the second film entering into entirely made up territory (although I'm sure there'll be plenty of scope for that whilst supposedly following the books!).

(Metapraxis) Tolkien Enterprises (Saul Zaentz) own the rights (in respect to filming) of almost all aspects of The Hobbit & LotRs: so there is nothing stopping them 'inventing' plot/characters etc within the Hobbit/LotRs story framework. Look at all the pap the games cover which has no direct correlation to anything in LotRs; thats all licensed through Tolkien Enterprises. So I guess they have the scope (if they wish) to play about quite a bit within this part of Tolkien's Legendarium!

On the matter of the film rights & their sale (by Tolkien). Does anyone know anything (firmly) about this? I know various dates have been batted about (late 60's etc); but one of the most interesting parts I read about in an interview with Saul Zaentz, is that he actually met with the family in the mid-70's. Supposedly it was with Christopher and Priscilla (presumably after Tolkien's death).

I often wondered (if true) why -if the rights had already been sold outright. Mabey they hadn't. After all there was all the reputed bother with the production & distribution rights being held (for The Hobbit) by different studios. Mabey he attempted to aquire all the film rights for Tolkien's Middle-earth works i.e. the rights to the (then) forthcoming Silmarillion (?).

I think mabey (as Collectors) we should open a thread to discuss the influence of the films (the three LotRs ones & the forthcoming Hobbit films) on book collecting (or all collecting); good or bad...

BH

Posted on: 2007/12/19 12:35
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Re: Hobbit Movie agreed with Peter Jackson (Plus Sequel)
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I can't think of anything to say.
I may just laugh like Beren
Hahahahahaha..........

Posted on: 2007/12/18 16:00
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Re: The Super Deluxe Children of Hurins are out
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Nah, I'm not too worried about not having ordered two copies up front. I think the number is fairly academic anyway (although number 3 certainly does have a nice ring to it!)-Metapraxis

Nice?!
Academic indeed...

I was at work on the 19th, I can't just go surfing and checking my email like some!

Posted on: 2007/12/16 2:05
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Re: Unusual Items
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O dear, I don't think I have anything very good (have I been collecting long enough?)

Best find (not online - aren't the best finds the ones where you physically come across the item?) was last year at Edinburgh book fair. Found a couple of Michael Tolkien's copies of the little 1979 Unwin paperback Silmarillion. One was from before publication (cut wrong) & the other was a better copy with a little headed note from GA&U stuck inside apologising for the previous copy; all with the usual Michael Tolkien name & address, and little notes about how it was sent back etc. I know Michael's books come up quite a bit but since my main focus is The Silmarillion - this was nice.

BH

Posted on: 2007/12/16 1:57
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Re: Gift wish list
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I ain't got Drout's Encyclopedia so can't really comment on content. But at the time I remember thinking £100 for Drout's with a few poor reviews and some real problems with the text (typos etc); versus ~£32 (Amazon discounted) for the two volumes in C&G by Hammond & Scull -no contest!

I think Tolkien Studies are pretty good value for money, and are quite good (if like me) you don't want to (or don't have the time) to read an enormous amount of Tolkien criticism. Unfortunately they review loads of books which you then end up buying!

As for the Gift List -I don't have a family list (got my own wants obviously!); although my partner has bought me The Silmarillion - Thirty Years on. And, of course, I've just shelled out on the Super Deluxe CoH for myself (I think it came at a bad time of year...)

A Film Portrait of J R R Tolkien is an excellent video! Extensive interview(s) with Christopher Tolkien. I don't collect a lot of film media related Tolkien, but this is a must - content is superb.

I got the Hobbit Hx as they came out, rather than boxset. Still sitting in the 'to be read' shelf! Hammond & Scull's ...Blackwelder is also good; and inexpensive -another which fairs favourably to Drout's, costing about a third of the price. Great piece by Hammond on collecting.

But I'll have Deagol's 1982 Deluxe Silmarillion once he's finished admiring how well it slides into its slipcase! (just for a minute mind, to see the beauty of the thing...)

BH

Posted on: 2007/12/16 1:45
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