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Re: The Super Deluxe Children of Hurins are out
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...good to know their are fellow people (especially on the same continent) who don't think it's lunacy to have 10 different copies of the same book :) -Metapraxis

It is lunacy!
Who's got more than 10 copies of the same book!?

Posted on: 2007/12/22 3:04
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Re: Hobbit Movie agreed with Peter Jackson (Plus Sequel)
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That still leaves an enormous amount of scope though; mainly due to the appended material in LotRs. There's litterally tons of stuff in the appendices when you think of it. Think of all the nonsense they could make up regarding 'Durin's Folk' or 'The Dunedain' or 'Eorl' etc etc -scary! They could make a whole series of films about the second age, which really would dip into the realm of pure invention...

Plus, how strenuously are the Estate going to contest anything which comes close to crossing the line?

Posted on: 2007/12/22 2:59
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Re: One Super Deluxe CoH owner is reporting flaking foil...
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Thanks for that reply about the issue number Metapraxis! It doesn't really matter at all I don't suppose. Plus the alternative was to keep a damaged copy, which is stupid considering the money outlay.

Your surmise about the current rate of sales and price would seem to be correct. I don't know how long other De Luxe editions took to sell (I know Beren has mentioned the Hobbit Super De Luxe's that he bought a long time after their publication; and the fact that they still had a lot left), but I don't suppose they'll distribute them via alternate channels just yet.

(As you state...) when you consider that all serious collectors who wanted one have probably now bought their copy (and many bought two copies); and that a few book dealers have bought copies evidently just to sell -that would seem to be those two sales avenues exausted.

All in thats only really a core group of ~100 people. I think the price has certainly moved it beyond the reach of the average book collector. Perhaps the price Beren was originally banding about of ~£250, would have made purchase less prohibitive.

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Posted on: 2007/12/22 2:48
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Re: One Super Deluxe CoH owner is reporting flaking foil...
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DAMN IT!

I've had to admit defeat with my #58 copy!

I mentioned in the other CoH thread that my copy had, what looked like, a scuff. After some thought & a good look I had to send it back.

The leather had been poorly tooled around one (back board; outside top) of the corners; you could actually see the board through it! It didn't look too good; but in the long term it was also a weak point, and I thought with time the leather would start to come away.

As I said to Deagol -Damn, Damn, and more Damn!! I don't have any 'Super' De Luxe editions; this was the first one I'd bought. And, #58 was nice and low for me. But now I've got #153...

Interestingly, as of the morning of the 17th only 152 copies had been shipped; hence me getting the next one. HC were extremely prompt at rectifying the problem mind you. I emailed on Sunday afternoon (undoubtedly not read until Monday morning), and the replacement was with me this morning (Wednesday!). [I currently have both copies!]

Your right about repair though Deagol! I did ask, but repair was not an option on the table. Annoyingly sense would tell you that #58 will be resold once repaired!

Please convince me that the number doesn't really matter...

BH

Posted on: 2007/12/19 13:04
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Re: Hobbit Movie agreed with Peter Jackson (Plus Sequel)
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By all accounts the films sound like a straight split of the book; with no mention (officially from the studios) of the second film entering into entirely made up territory (although I'm sure there'll be plenty of scope for that whilst supposedly following the books!).

(Metapraxis) Tolkien Enterprises (Saul Zaentz) own the rights (in respect to filming) of almost all aspects of The Hobbit & LotRs: so there is nothing stopping them 'inventing' plot/characters etc within the Hobbit/LotRs story framework. Look at all the pap the games cover which has no direct correlation to anything in LotRs; thats all licensed through Tolkien Enterprises. So I guess they have the scope (if they wish) to play about quite a bit within this part of Tolkien's Legendarium!

On the matter of the film rights & their sale (by Tolkien). Does anyone know anything (firmly) about this? I know various dates have been batted about (late 60's etc); but one of the most interesting parts I read about in an interview with Saul Zaentz, is that he actually met with the family in the mid-70's. Supposedly it was with Christopher and Priscilla (presumably after Tolkien's death).

I often wondered (if true) why -if the rights had already been sold outright. Mabey they hadn't. After all there was all the reputed bother with the production & distribution rights being held (for The Hobbit) by different studios. Mabey he attempted to aquire all the film rights for Tolkien's Middle-earth works i.e. the rights to the (then) forthcoming Silmarillion (?).

I think mabey (as Collectors) we should open a thread to discuss the influence of the films (the three LotRs ones & the forthcoming Hobbit films) on book collecting (or all collecting); good or bad...

BH

Posted on: 2007/12/19 12:35
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