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Re: Blank / Dummy Silmarillions
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Well, Holford ( ) states the following:

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Printed by Clowes & Sons.

Pre-publication dummy copy. According to a letter seen with one copy, these were distributed to booksellers to solicit pre-publication orders.

Dark blue cloth binding, with blue and white striped headband, dyed blue top edge and dark blue coloured dustwrapper.

Three variants have been seen:

1) With the pages printed up to page 32
2) With the pages printed up to page 35
3) With these pages blank

The copy of Variant 3 seen lacked a dustwrapper.

Most copies come in the unpriced export jacket, but one copy of the 32 page variant has been seen in a priced domestic dustwrapper. Whether this was as issued is uncertain.


Courtesy of Tolkienbooks.net
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So I guess this is pretty much all thats been seen. The priced variant sounds unlikely if it was Clowes (as their jackets were unpriced).

Deagol!? Was the priced copy a Billing copy? Or have all dummy copies (seen) been Clowes 1rst impressions?

As an added point. The presence of only Clowes pre-publication copies (assuming this is the case) adds weight to the argument that Clowes was the main printer employed & that these copies were in production (or in this case pre-production) first.

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Posted on: 2008/1/5 14:24
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Re: A new collection
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Wow! Lots of questions Tom! And answering them could delve us all into Bibliophilic overdrive.

[Some thoughts on collecting...]

First of all I (personally) think you have to collect (or at least start to collect...) what you read. If you read & like Tolkien -collect Tolkien. If you don't read (or like) Harry Potter -don't start collecting it. When you've been collecting for years, your collecting tastes may evolve into something quite different; but I think this is good place to start.

Like any collecting -collect what you want; its not about what anyone else wants to collect -its about what you want to collect. You can be sure of one thing in regards to Tolkien collecting anyway -somebody somewhere will (in all likelyhood) be collecting in the same area as you (mabey not though!)

In the eyes of most people (this company excluded) your already a total geek for liking tolkien anyway! Wait to you tell them you have more than one copy of the same book! or 50 copies of the same book! or hundreds of calendars!

Also, you have your whole life to collect books (or anything else) if you choose to; there's no rush (is there?); and certainly no apparent end in sight even for those with a massive collection and years of collecting behind them.

Most people have a focus for their collection; an area they're particularly interested in. If you collect books generally, Tolkien might be your special area of interest. Within Tolkien collecting you may focus in any number of areas: primary works; only hardbacks; only one title (LotRs); signed books; illustrated books etc etc -whatever.

The aim of this (I think what drives those of us who collect) is to be able to (at least in theory) see a 'complete' collection in this area. Having some focus within an area at least (subconciously) limits you to only collecting within it; and ultimately sets some boundaries on spending.

Ain't got time to finish this (and Rowns has bound in with a fair bit while I was mid-typing this!)

BH

Posted on: 2008/1/1 11:39
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Re: The Super Deluxe Children of Hurins are out
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...good to know their are fellow people (especially on the same continent) who don't think it's lunacy to have 10 different copies of the same book :) -Metapraxis

It is lunacy!
Who's got more than 10 copies of the same book!?

Posted on: 2007/12/22 3:04
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Re: Hobbit Movie agreed with Peter Jackson (Plus Sequel)
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That still leaves an enormous amount of scope though; mainly due to the appended material in LotRs. There's litterally tons of stuff in the appendices when you think of it. Think of all the nonsense they could make up regarding 'Durin's Folk' or 'The Dunedain' or 'Eorl' etc etc -scary! They could make a whole series of films about the second age, which really would dip into the realm of pure invention...

Plus, how strenuously are the Estate going to contest anything which comes close to crossing the line?

Posted on: 2007/12/22 2:59
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Re: One Super Deluxe CoH owner is reporting flaking foil...
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Thanks for that reply about the issue number Metapraxis! It doesn't really matter at all I don't suppose. Plus the alternative was to keep a damaged copy, which is stupid considering the money outlay.

Your surmise about the current rate of sales and price would seem to be correct. I don't know how long other De Luxe editions took to sell (I know Beren has mentioned the Hobbit Super De Luxe's that he bought a long time after their publication; and the fact that they still had a lot left), but I don't suppose they'll distribute them via alternate channels just yet.

(As you state...) when you consider that all serious collectors who wanted one have probably now bought their copy (and many bought two copies); and that a few book dealers have bought copies evidently just to sell -that would seem to be those two sales avenues exausted.

All in thats only really a core group of ~100 people. I think the price has certainly moved it beyond the reach of the average book collector. Perhaps the price Beren was originally banding about of ~£250, would have made purchase less prohibitive.

BH

Posted on: 2007/12/22 2:48
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