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Re: Unwin PB 1987 Reissued Edition Impression question
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Or not, when it comes to the 1983 Pb Silmarillion impression list...

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Re: Unwin PB 1987 Reissued Edition Impression question
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I'm not sure about this specific example, but I don't think that's what Deagol's saying. I think he's saying the copyright page is in error, and the evidence points to whatever it is he's said. So he's not really looking at these copyright pages & seeing something you're not; he's just saying they're plain wrong, based on some other piece of evidence, or his reading of these copyright pages based on other known incidences of GA&U/UH making a mess of them. In this case, according to the copyright page, "reprinted 1981" would denote the 2nd impression, of the Fourth edition, of 1981.

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Posted on: 5/21 16:22:25
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Re: Unwin PB 1987 Reissued Edition Impression question
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I've no idea of the reality (i.e. what UH technically meant by a reissue), but reading the copyright page & taking it at face value, the 1987 impression is definitely the 5th impression of the 1986 "Re-issue".

1st imp. - 1986 Reissue
2nd imp. - 1986 1st reprint
3rd imp. - 1986 2nd reprint
4th imp. - 1986 3rd reprint
5th imp. - 1987 (4th reprint)

Deagol may not be disputing this interpretation; he may just not believe there were three reprints based on information gleaned from the GA&U archive during various research trips.

He also said something similar in regard to the 1983 Pb Ed. of The Silmarillion; however, since I have all the impressions stated on the copyright page, I soon corrected him on that count! ;)

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Posted on: 5/21 15:13:25
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Re: Thinking of selling Silmarillion. red leather bound edition (limited 1000 )
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As Wayne makes clear in his post around 270 were bound up. There were definitely 100 signed copies, leaving ~170 unsigned copies. That's the way I read it at the time. Therefore, the unsigned copy while rare is hardly to be described as (I'm looking at you, Trotter!) "probably scarcer than the signed copies".

Having said that, these are pretty damn scarce! Here are some historical eBay prices I've noted, danskmacabre:

2003: £900 [#102, unsigned]
2004: £632 [#11, signed]
2007: £624 [#201, unsigned]
2008: ~£741 [#117, unsigned]
2009: £588 [#205, unsigned, no slipcase]
2012: £400 [#90, signed]
2013: ~£2,729 (EUR 3161) [#28, signed, with orig. mailing box]
2013: £2,250 [#100, Signed]

I have a few notes regarding ABE copies, but it's harder to ascertain whether these sell; or if they do, for what price. Personally I'd throw it on eBay & watch as it probably goes for silly money. Not sure if this is a good time to be selling such an edition, but you can always put a reserve on the auction.

Alternatively, I'd be interested in an unsigned copy!

BH

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Re: New Book Releases
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Earl, I think if you could get either of the Super Deluxe Ed.'s for £125 that would be a pretty decent price; when I think back to the full price (CoH) & discounted price (S&G) I paid for my copies, they probably weren't (& aren't) worth it. The only thing I'd say to you is, if you're a Tolkien collector, you're probably not going to enjoy these leather editions that much; I mean, you're probably not going to handle them often simply because you've paid so much money for them. Of course, in this case, you're also getting an "official" signature thrown in for that price; so all-in £125 is fair I'd say.

I get far more enjoyment out of old, old leather books that I have, that are already a little battle-scarred & "pre-loved". The finish on antiquarian leather books can't really be matched by the HarperCollins' of today. Having said that, full leather is still reasonably uncommon even for older books. Coming back to Tolkien, I have a rebound half-leather 1977 Silmarillion (a modern leather rebind, but by a reputable bookbinder) & it's very comfortable to handle. I enjoy this copy more than I enjoy having the two Super Deluxe copies. Rebinds are, in my opinion, worth having if the price is right; particularly if you're just looking for that lovely leather feel.

BH

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Posted on: 5/19 2:02:24
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