Login

Or
Register Now


Already have an account?
Username:

Password:

Remember me

Lost Your Password?
Main Menu
Collector's Guide Table of Contents
Recent Visitors

Findegil
4 minutes ago

Stu
48 minutes ago

Khamûl
1 hour 18 minutes ago

Morgan
1 hour 29 minutes ago

wellinghall
1 hour 41 minutes ago

laurel
2 hours 44 minutes ago

Berelach
4 hours 2 minutes ago

onthetrail
4 hours 36 minutes ago
   All Posts (Peeta)


« 1 2 3 4 (5) 6 7 8 ... 17 »


Re: Remove "old book" odor
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2007/10/23 4:21
Group:
Shirefolk
Posts: 84
Offline
Let me know if your treatment works Morgan. My impression has been that stinky /mildewy books are beyond help and can affect other books. I'm interested if you have any luck, I hope you do!

Posted on: 2012/8/17 17:26


Re: Help on Saruman and Radagast question
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2007/10/23 4:21
Group:
Shirefolk
Posts: 84
Offline
Very interesting Jlong. I realize that i wasn't thinking about something very important about the Istari when i posted, "For they must be
mighty, peers of Sauron, but must forego might, and
clothe themselves in flesh so as to treat on equality
and win the trust of Elves and Men’’ (UT, 393).
This would then explain perhaps why Sauron seems so much more mighty than even Sauruman, the mightiest of the Istari. He (Sauron) did not forego any of his might, he came to Middle Earth as Melian did in full strength.
It is still interesting to me that JRR talks about the "Lords of the Valar" and states that we must assume that the Istari were all Maia. Definately leaves room for some sort of 'middle class' of Ainur, not Lords of the Valar and not servants of the Valar.

Posted on: 2012/7/29 10:12


Re: Help on Saruman and Radagast question
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2007/10/23 4:21
Group:
Shirefolk
Posts: 84
Offline
I've looked at this thread a number of times and never posted anything thinking I probably don't have anything to say that you all have not thought of. But after looking into the question I kind of have questions of my own and want to formulate an opinion!
So, in the Silmarillion Olorin is clearly stated to be a Maia. But earlier in the text on the Valar it states that (those listed) were the Lords, seems to me to leave it open that there were other Vala...
In Unfinished Tales, in what I take to be an earlier text from JRR (than the one with the ominous word "assume" ) he states "they (the Valar) sent members of their own high order", which CT states "the order of the Valar". This is interesting because CT seems to take it as a direct reference that his father originally thought of the Istari as Vala.
I remember reading somewhere that JRR looked at Middle Earth as one looks at ancient history and did not give himself liberty to dictate the reality of what "was". Regardless it seems that, at first at least, JRR was assuming that the Istari were of the higher order of the Valar (though not Lords), but then later on changed his mind and linked them with the order of the Maia.
The fact that in The Silmarillion it states "the Lords of the Valar" seem to indicate that there were others of the same kind (i.e. not Maia) and the casual conversation in which Manwe "asks" where Olorin is and "asks" him to go to Middle Earth ("asks" versus "commands") indicate to me that the Istari were thought of (at that time in JRR's writings) as beings of comparable 'stature' to the Valar, unlike the Maia who were completely at the bidding of the Valar.
Well, that was my best shot! And I'll be the first to admit what I have just said could be uninformed and or contradictory to writings that I'm not aware of!
Also very interesting articles on Radagast! I would like to know more about Sauron along the same lines of Maia vs. Vala, since Olorin was stated to be afraid of him (conversation between Manwe and Olorin)and in LOTR he is clearly more mighty than Sauruman who was the mightiest of the Istari...

Posted on: 2012/7/28 22:41


Re: CS Lewis
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2007/10/23 4:21
Group:
Shirefolk
Posts: 84
Offline
Thanks for the book tip jlong. I definately know there is value in the Narnia series! But to pay upwards of $1000 for each book in a 7 book series...!

It was only a few years ago that I was introduced to the Space Trilogy and, while not as engrossing as LOTR in my opinion, i found them to be brilliant books.
I've known about Screwtape, The Great Divorce and some of his religious books since childhood. Only recently did I consider looking for early printings of Lewis and when I tried to do some research it seemed like the actual first printing of a lot of his works were in journals and the like.

Anyway, thanks for the help!

Posted on: 2012/7/28 21:14


Re: CS Lewis
Just can't stay away
Joined:
2007/10/23 4:21
Group:
Shirefolk
Posts: 84
Offline
Thanks Roccondil. What of CS Lewis do you enjoy collecting? I have been trying to find printing information for books like The Screwtape Letters and Mere Christianity. I know there's probably not great value in first printings (or maybe there is) of books like Mere Christianity, but I'm interested none the less. Thanks again

Posted on: 2012/7/26 10:59



 Top
« 1 2 3 4 (5) 6 7 8 ... 17 »




© 2016 TolkienGuide.com and respective authors. Contact Us