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Re: Folio Society Books
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The latest FS bibliography, I think, is Folio 60 btw --it cover to 2006, so would probably have the kind of impression information you're looking for.


We have Folio 60. The first printing of The Silmarillion was issued in 1997, bound in "full blue vegetable parchment ('Elephanthide') with a design in gold, red and black by Mosley; pale grey flecked endleaves. Dark red-brown slip case." The binding was uniform with 1997 printings of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.

A second printing of the Folio Society Silmarillion was issued in 2002, and a third in 2003; it is said that "some copies" of these (no number given) were bound "in quarter dark brown morocco, gold Indian silk boards; dark brown endleaves. Brown morocco-covered slip case", the slipcase and spine with calligraphic lettering by John Andrew.

"Some copies" of the fourth printing (2003) were bound like the second and third "but with flecked cream endleaves" and with an additional leaf before the half-title giving a limitation as 1750 numbered copies (this is the only quantity noted for the several printings).

The bibliography also lists a fifth printing in 2004, but without further details.

We have the first and fourth printings in our collection. The limitation statement in the fourth describes the leather as "Wassa goatskin" and the Indian silk (what some would call "slub silk") is hand-woven. The fourth also includes a slip laid in giving instructions on how to care for the leather.

Wayne & Christina

Posted on: 2013/5/12 9:23


Re: International Shipping assistance network?
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Such a "network" has existed for a long time between Tolkien collectors, on an individual basis. Indeed, we first got to know each other because we were on opposite sides of the Atlantic and wanted U.S. or U.K. editions respectively. In those days, there was no Amazon or Book Depository or the like, and paying in a foreign currency was elaborate and expensive, before the introduction of international credit management and PayPal.

We still have this kind of arrangement with several friends in Europe: we buy something for them, they buy something for us, as we choose, we keep track of "accounts", and we negotiate what seems mutually like a fair exchange. This is especially useful for obtaining Tolkien-related society publications which don't enter into the usual trade, or translations not found from online sources, and when we're concerned to get a first printing of a book or a copy in good condition, neither of which one can count on from Amazon et al., but which is sometimes possible when a friend can look at copies in a shop. We have also used friends in the U.K. as shipping addresses for U.K. eBay sellers who won't post to the U.S.A.

From our point of view, there is certainly room for a wider network, and we could see ourselves using it to some degree, while helping others in return.

Wayne & Christina

Posted on: 2013/5/9 4:52


Re: Poor Journalism
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Wayne thanks for this but i wonder why no notice of your email was taken, he acknowledged my comments on the book's printed signature as if it was new information and that he had not heard it before.


I have no idea. I replied at once (11 April) and had no indication that my e-mail wasn't delivered. Maybe it was felt that the point about the signature was still open to question. I didn't question that the copy had association value.

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Posted on: 2013/5/4 7:04


Re: Poor Journalism
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Mr. Curtin contacted me last month about the copy of Tree and Leaf. I replied, in part, addressing several points made on the website: "All copies of Tree and Leaf in its first edition contain a printed facsimile Tolkien signature on the title-page, as shown in the video. My wife and I have in our Tolkien collection multiple copies of multiple printings of Tree and Leaf, and the facsimile signature is present from the first through at least the eighth impression of the hardback and the ninth of the paperback. Although both the hardback and paperback editions of Tree and Leaf were published simultaneously (from identical sheets), on 28 May 1964, the work was originally conceived by George Allen & Unwin for publication in its 'Unwin Books' (or 'U Books') paperback series, a feature of which was a facsimile signature of the author printed on the title-page. The same Tolkien signature appears as well in the Unwin Books edition of The Hobbit (1966)."

As for Tolkien returning to teach at Oxford, standing in for a colleague, Christina and I know of only one instance, during Michaelmas Term 1962 and Hilary Term 1963 (i.e. the end of 1962 and beginning of 1963), when C.L. Wrenn went on sabbatical. Of this Tolkien wrote to Rayner Unwin: "the return to lecturing . . . has proved a much greater burden than I expected. It has taken much more work than I guessed to shake the dust of seventeen years off matter which I once thought I knew". See Chronology, pp. 599 ff. At this time of course Tree and Leaf was not yet published; but one could still speculate about circumstances in which Mr. Prince could have received a copy from Tolkien.

Wayne

Posted on: 2013/5/4 5:37


Re: WANTED: US/HM 1998 Silmarillion Hb (Nasmith)
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Our own problem has been with Amazon UK. Postal charges from the UK to the USA likewise have increased, along with which are Amazon's own fees, and although sometimes we can do better ordering from Book Depository (no fees, free overseas shipping), they don't always have what we want. Beyond this is the problem of Amazon UK typically shipping to the USA via Deutsche Post DHL, which amounts to slow surface mail, and more than once we've had to complain about parcels that disappeared. We can't rely on Amazon, then, for books when time is sensitive, as when we want a first printing (we have to think what we're doing about the trade and deluxe Fall of Arthur). And then there's the issue of increased risk of damage, when a parcel is knocking about for six weeks or more (on an estimated arrival of about four weeks). One could pay for expedited shipping, but the cost is an arm and a leg.

Wayne & Christina

Posted on: 2013/5/2 5:40



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