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Re: Recommendations for Tolkien facsimile dust jackets
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I'm trying to mock up a facsimile DJ for a 4th Impression Hobbit (using various sources) to put on a "beater" ex-libris copy that I picked up for a few bucks. My choice is to get Mark at Facsimile Dust Jackets to resize a 1st imp jacket (which seems like overkill for a tatty old copy) or to have a go at making one myself using elements from other impressions, which has a bit of a fun aspect to it.

I've found a few photos on the internet that tell me most of what I need.

However, can anyone help me with the text that is inside the back flap? I only have a photo that is partially obscured, so I can't make out the text. The front flap isn't a problem - I've figured out the text for that from a similarly obscured picture coupled with the full info gleaned from other impressions.

If anyone knows the correct font for the text (should it even exist in electronic form), that would also be handy. Times New Roman is actually remarkably close, with the chief difference being the "M"s, which do not have slanted sides.

Ta in advance for any help.

Edit: Found what I need in an earlier post by Trotter:

http://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... ewtopic.php?topic_id=1763


Edit: I figure that it will end up something like this (this is just a low res version for getting the layout right to fit in the book and look vaguely authentic). The exact sizing and spacing of the text will take a bit of mucking about, but it doesn't need to perfect - not like I'm trying to pass it off as real.

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Posted on: 7/6 16:10:42

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Re: Possible unpublished Tolkien letter
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Khamûl wrote:
Interesting; thanks for posting Trotter.

I'm always curious as to what permissions are sought or given for publishing such things. I think it's been mentioned here before, in regard to the publishing of extracts only & also for auction houses to show letter(s) content simply by the fact that they've photographed them; the content of Tolkien's letters, regardless of who owns them, resides, from a copyright perspective, with the Tolkien Estate; does it not? Would permission have been sought here? Or is the content too redacted &/or insignificant? Just curious...

BH


Copyright is indeed retained by the Tolkien Estate. Snippets could most likely be posted under the "Fair Use" doctrine, but anything more sizeable (such as printing an entire letter) would certainly require permission.

Posted on: 7/6 15:06:37


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Urulöké wrote:
Stu wrote:
Until you found these books happened to be the first printing, you essentially thought they were tatty junk. Being the first, they somehow ceased to be tatty junk.


Just pricey tatty junk.

Seriously, though, book collecting is definitely an odd business. As my wife says, "well, I guess it's better than a lot of other hobbies you could have!"


That's pretty much my wife's take on it! I think her biggest beef is that she has to cart a whole load of books back from the UK every year or two when she goes back to visit family. My collecting these days is pretty much entirely on the few-dollars-a-pop end of the scale, which means international postage from the UK makes little sense most of the time (well, that and I'm broke!).

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Urulöké wrote:
I updated my previous post on the LOTR set with reproduction dustjackets, but to reiterate what I said there, here:

I was hasty in my reaction which was primarily to the pictures - the discontinuity between the repro jackets and the books underneath. I did not notice that these are all first impression books, which (in any condition) would certainly have value to collectors well above what the repro jackets cost.

To be clear, I have no problem having beat up copies of Tolkien's works on my shelves - in fact I do, for many titles and editions! I don't personally like having pristine reproduction dustjackets hiding the books, is all. I feel the same way about rebindings.



I must admit, I did think you had been a bit harsh (or that 1/1s of these were getting much cheaper)!

Still, it makes for an interesting (if accidental) experiment. Until you found these books happened to be the first printing, you essentially thought they were tatty junk. Being the first, they somehow ceased to be tatty junk.

Book collecting is an odd business to be sure.

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Trotter wrote:
Just got the three volume 60th Lord of the Rings and Reader's Companion in a slipcase.

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If anybody else has a copy yet, does your dust-jacket on the Two Towers, appear to be the correct size and fit well on the book?



I got mine today. The Two Towers Dust Jacket appears to be the correct size. However, the lower board is noticeably (a couple of mm) less wide than the upper. The RotK DJ is probably slightly too wide, but hasn't got the folding seen on your TT (but it could have developed a fold in the same way as yours if the postal service had been less kind). There is also a bit of colour transfer from the box and from the RoTK onto the Reader's Companion DJ.

Also of significant note is the printing of the Dust Jackets which all look a bit like colour photocopies. You can very clearly see the little dots making up the printing of the solid background colours on all four jackets. When you put the 6th impressions next to the first impressions, the quality of DJ printing between ten years ago and today is a mile apart. The new ones aren't bad, they just don't look quite right compared to the originals. Personally, I think the foil on the 1st impressions looks much better (but presumably was deleted as a cost saving exercise).

All in all, it seems to be an OK set. Somewhat lower in quality than books from a few years back (in line with the ongoing trend at HC), but certainly acceptable for the Amazon discounted price (GBP 55). At 90 pounds, I'd probably be less happy. And I'm pleased to see it isn't printed in China (unlike the one volume).

Posted on: 6/30 16:06:07

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