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Tapuvae wrote:
I do wish the buying market was wider. We have two sources and eBay. No one seems in a rush to buy or sell really, at least that is my impression after entering this hobby 14 months ago.


I don't know about only two sources. Abebooks has a lot of sellers, plus eBay and some other regional auction sites.

Prices seem to have dropped, but I'd agree that supply is also low. It is an odd market, but probably what is to be expected. There are very few people with any urgency to buy (so prices have correspondingly come off the boil), but the mass of people who purchased post-movies haven't reached the point they particularly need/want to sell, either. A lot of books may gather dust for a while before they come back on the market. It is no drama for anyone that is into the collecting game for the long haul :)

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Urulöké wrote:
I think a reboot (of one or both) is inevitable, probably within five years or so (at least the announcement/prep work - who knows when it would be released). Unless the whole "reboot for profit" theme dies out in Hollywood... unlikely.



Whilst an LOTR reboot/remake at some point is inevitable, I don't see anything happening in those kind of timescales, especially as PJ made such an effort to re-use characters/actors in The Hobbit. The problem is that LOTR wasn't terrible, and it is going to be hard and hugely expensive to remake to a standard that guarantees success. Comic book reboots are easier as one can tell any story one likes, so long as their is a slightly bulkier rubber suit and a slightly darker tone from one movie to the next. There isn't this freedom with LOTR as the story is well-defined and not endless. I think The Hobbit needs to settle for quite a while before the whole thing can be revisited with a new cast and style. Perhaps 10 - 15 years, and the studio might have another stab at it.

Personally, I think a lack of a much wider interest in collecting Tolkien books is a good thing. It becomes something collectors can enjoy again at an affordable price. I don't imagine any of the genuine collectors (as opposed to dealers and speculators) that are regulars here really ever plan on selling their collections, so there is no real downside to a price correction (other than to their estates, I guess). I'm already running on the assumption that anything with "deluxe" in the title (other than the 1982 Sil -- which is a genuine rarity and is beyond my reach!) is probably worth zero in the long run. I don't have too many duplicates, so I'm not losing sleep over that fact!

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Trotter wrote:
Possibly for the Super Deluxe, not sure about the rest



I think the SD Sil. will stay rather expensive, but I doubt anyone is going to be paying $7,500 for a copy (not that anyone necessarily ever did - but I think that was what I saw the last one advertised for).


A reminder that asking prices clearly have no bearing in selling prices (a set of HoME that don't look that exceptional to me, except for the price):
http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/tolkien-book-store/ARH0004.htm

(I like to use prices where I know for sure what they should be to help me determine how exaggerated other prices might be from the same source for things I have less certainty on. I don't mean to give any offence to any specific sellers here, but I think the Tolkien "popularity bubble" that followed the movies allowed things to get more than a little bit silly, and what seemed acceptable three or four years ago now looks absurd)

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Tapuvae wrote:
Somewhere Stu posted a price list of the different impressions. As I recall there is a steep drop off from 1st to 2nd impression on this book correct?


I don't think I actually captured any sales of the 1st impression when I was tracking such things, but from what I have observed on jacketed 2nd prices, they are much less than the asking prices of 1sts.

Of course, realistically the asking prices for Dogfark's 1sts are out of line with reality, which is why he has been trying to sell the same overpriced books for years. This goes for most of the books he advertises, which seem to be aimed at the gullible and ill-informed.

Personally, I can't see prices heading anywhere but down (signed books aside, as they seem to follow no logic and it only takes a single money-no-object person to make a sale). I don't suppose they will end up uber-cheap, but I expect them to be much more affordable (again) in five years than today. If you look at all the 1950s second edition copies on Abe for a few hundred dollars a pop - essentially no one buys them.

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Trotter wrote:
It has been described in a slightly different way in the past, which I think clarifies three stamped dates at the front of the book and three at the rear.

"1937 1st edition, 1st impression. Very good book and jacket. Book has usual age related wear, but no serious damage. There are small rubber date stamps to the front and rear end pages, 3 each. We would say it belong to a private club library as there are no other indication of library stamps or excessive wear. The dust jacket has a 3 inch paper section missing from the rear top edge of the jacket. This could be restored, but we don’t recommend it. Overall, a very presentable copy and more affordable for the flaws mentioned. You could spend £35,000 plus just on this edition.".

I can't tell from the pictures if any leaves are missing at the front of the book, the page with 'First Published 1937' is the fourth page in the book.


Looks like the "first published 1937" page is the third leaf in this copy. Can't tell for sure, mind.

Still, the changing of the description from "stamps front and rear/private library" to "child playing with a rubber stamp" absolutely stinks.

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