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Re: _Fall of Arthur_ in 2013?
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Khamûl wrote:
Really? That's genuinely pretty surprising, what with postage seemingly more expensive than ever. Does this really affect the average buyer who's not searching quite so hard though? I mean Laurin666 says it works in Germany. Surely it would have some effect if Amazon.co.uk were listing books at the same price as the high street? (--assuming for a second there actually was a high street!) With postage this would make their books more expensive (overall) to acquire. Would it not help a bit?

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Yep, really. It is MUCH cheaper to buy books from the UK than to buy them on the high street in Australia. Australia is a bit of a basket case, mind -- probably the most expensive country on Earth at this juncture.

I just can't see how on a global scale price controls will work. The online seller will just base themselves where the price controls don't apply, and so long as their suppliers give them the books cheap enough, the postage isn't a problem.

Of course, tariffs can be introduced, but for low value items, they end up being too expensive to enforce.

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Hmmm... I agree with Laurin666 though --if the NBA (Net Book Agreement) still existed in the UK (it fell apart in the 90's) then bigger booksellers simply wouldn't be able to undercut smaller independent bookshops. And, I suspect, more would survive.

I still step into literally every bookshop I pass on the street; be it a secondhand bookshop (independent, Oxfam, etc) or Waterstones. I don't check my phone to see if I could get it cheaper online. If it's the book I want I buy it. However, I'm not on the high street that often any more.

Nobody posting here is a normal book buyer though. We'll pick up a Hb in a store and not buy it because it's a second impression. The problem is normal buyers are not buying on the high street. Overall, I don't really have a problem (in some respects) with the high street bricks & mortar stores disappearing --provided the replacement is better. It isn't.

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It is a globalisation issue. Local laws are largely irrelevant because cheap bulk postal agreements mean that the online retailers can just operate from different territories. Australia is a good example -- it is cheaper to buy books in the UK and ship them than to buy them locally, so local price controls probably would not be effective.

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Trotter wrote:

Though Victoria might want to start by fixing tolkien.co.uk first and actually informing people when they publish new books



Tolkien.co.uk is, I suspect, unfixable in its current form. It is clear from the the way it behaves completely without internal self-consistency that the underlying data model is just completely and utterly borked. As a software development professional, I would be ashamed if I ever delivered a product like that...

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The thing is, it isn't Amazon that destroyed the book marketplace - we did. We wanted books at a better price than the stores, and so we ended up with a monopoly instead (or perhaps an oligopoly).

Same as when we killed all the local and specialist stores by using the supermarket instead.

Posted on: 2013/4/20 16:40


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I don't understand why SD CoHs keep selling on eBay for more than the 265 pounds that they can still be bought from from the tolkien.co.uk site.

And I really don't get this one below. It has gone up to 345 pounds at the time of writing and still says "reserve not met".

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261200069807?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

Mind you, I hate Private Auctions, as I have zero faith that it isn't all just shill bidding. I just don't understand why the private auction feature even exists, given that the bidders identities are protected on a normal auction anyway (but you can at least get a bit of data to help determine if they look legit).



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