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Re: History of Middle Earth - Deluxe Ltd 1000
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Tapuvae wrote:
Yes thanks, I do have email communication through Ebay about all of this, including the cloth slip cases, so I have my fingers crossed. Wait until some of the winners get their various HOME editions that are price clipped. But to the point others have made, having now seen these earlier "deluxe" sets in person, well, not so impressive ;)



Yep, they certainly aren't anything to write home about (but equally none of the deluxe editions really ever have been) :) Of course, that's not the fault of the eBay seller (they can't be responsible for the merit or lack-of in the underlying product). All the eBay seller has to do is make sure they describe the condition and details fairly and accurately, and seems in this case they have not done that in one or more of the auctions you "won".

That seller's feedback has a lot of the same IDs pop up again and again - which may be indicative of legitimate repeat purchases . But I do wonder if an eBay name change changes that name in historic feedback (I suspect not). So is d***i (1565) actually the same ID as r***8 (1562)? Both provide feedback on lots of transactions, the latter just prior to the former.

It is easy to read things into the feedback that aren't there, unfortunately -- and it just creates confirmation bias.

Posted on: 2015/7/4 15:19

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Re: History of Middle Earth - Deluxe Ltd 1000
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Tapuvae wrote:
Ugh, So the books arrived. HOME 1 is not sealed and is quite ratty and both the LOTR and Hobbit are later impressions (seller told me they were cloth cases), let alone the other minor issues with the cheaper books (sun faded spines). The HOME 1 looks quite awful. Yikes.



That's terrible news re the HOME 1 - Don't muck about here. You must immediately file a dispute with eBay on that book. If the book is not as described, then you should pursue a refund ASAP, and you need to maximise your chances of success by saying within the time windows. Sealed or otherwise, the HOME 1 is stated to be in "as new", "mint", "unread" condition.

I notice the text for HOME 1 doesn't say "still in shrink-wrap", which is - perhaps - telling. I also notice what looks like tape at the top and bottom of the Home 1 Pictures. It looks like an unsealed book with some cling-wrap taped on -- but only with the benefit of hindsight. I'm assuming the other books WERE sealed, and the seller cleverly gave the impression that this one was also, without actually stating it. It also means the pictures didn't show the condition of the book at all -- sneaky.

I think with the Hobbit, you are out of luck, unless you still have the email communications with the seller stating it is a cloth slipcase (if you do, then definitely file a dispute). There is nothing in the auction itself to indicate that it is the 1st impression. From the pictures it appears to be a 2nd impression with vinyl slipcase (if I had to guess), but it isn't possible to be sure either way from those pictures. I guess it is down to any email claims, and as to whether it is in the stated condition (you mention sun-faded spines?).

With the LOTR, I can see fairly easily that it is a 3rd/4th impression by looking at the picture of the reverse of the slipcase. You can see the fake grain showing through. However, again - if the seller has claimed a cloth slipcase in your email communications with them, then I would say you have grounds for a dispute. If not, then it is just down to whether the book is in "mint", "as new" condition. Note that a cloth slipcase wouldn't have guaranteed you a 1st, as the first two impressions of LoTR had cloth slipcases.

I hope you get a decent result. I think you are definitely in the clear with HoME1 if it is tatty, but you may struggle on the others, and it may depend on the communication outside of the auction. Best of luck getting an acceptable outcome.

Posted on: 2015/7/4 14:53


Re: New Book Releases
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That's what I thought, which makes "The world first publication of a previously unknown work of fantasy by J.R.R. Tolkien, which tells the powerful story of a doomed young man who is sold into slavery and who swears revenge on the magician who killed his father." on the HarperCollins website a trifle dubious.

Posted on: 2015/7/3 19:47


Re: New Book Releases
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Is this an expanded version of the material published in Tolkien Studies Vol. 7? (which I haven't read)

Posted on: 2015/7/2 14:36


Re: The Wonders of...
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Khamûl wrote:
Okay, here's a fabulously priced "true" 1st of The Silmarillion:

eBay Item #231609865390

...with a touch of exaggeration for good measure:

1977 Allen & Unwin. This is the true first editions with no price on the flap for international distribution. The UK priced example was just for the UK. Book near fine with only minor blemmishes. Jacket near fine, no tears or marks, spine title is pink to red meaning less sunning than most copies. Generally they are available only with the spine title faded to white. As good and example as they get.

Faded to white?!

A challenge to all members & posters & the public at large. Find a 1977 copy of The Silmarillion with the "Silmarillion" spine lettering faded to white. Not orange. Not yellow. White. Can't say I've ever seen this, but what do I know?! There's a prize in it for the winner...

BH


Exaggeration is dogfark's trademark, I think. And if you have a Billings 1st, it is total crap (and a reprint) that isn't worth having (as real collectors are only interested in the Clowes, as that is the true first). That's the general idea I get from his FB page, anyway. Still, if the can get 150 quid for a 5 quid book, that is quite a skill.

Posted on: 2015/7/1 18:53



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