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Re: History of Middle Earth - Deluxe Ltd 1000
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Tapuvae wrote:
I know you mentioned the Unfinished Tales that matches the HOME 12 volume set as a rarity. Curious what other volumes you would put in the rare column. Its funny because most other things I collect are much more numerous than most of these books for which a run of 500 is seen as high.



There are obviously some ultra-rarities (e.g. Songs for the Philologists), but to be honest, most Tolkien stuff just isn't particularly rare. The Super Deluxe Silmarillion from 1982 would certainly be an expensive rarity. I'm sure others will chime in.

Posted on: 2015/6/23 17:55


Re: History of Middle Earth - Deluxe Ltd 1000
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Tapuvae wrote:
Regarding revenge bidding, I think its part of auction fever. You can imagine waiting 7 days for these to close and consistently losing out in the last 5 seconds to the same bidder. By the end of that you get a little offended by this and throw in a high bid try to win one. It really makes no sense to bid more for the Silmarillion than the Hobbit or LOTR volumes so I don't know what to make of it. I do know people have done this (bid for the heck of it).

I have major buyer's remorse of course, which I do after every auction. At this point if the winner of the Silmarillion wanted the other 5 I would let him take them because man the conversion to USD really hurts ;)



All I can say is, that in 12 years or so of eBaying books, it isn't something I have ever noticed. I have definitely noticed lots of probable shill bidding, bid shielding, etc. I personally would say that about 10% of the auctions that I monitor closely look to have seller irregularities.

My personal recommendation is (a) use an auction sniper, (b) choose the price the book is worth to you and set that in the sniper (and not a penny more!). Then DO NOT look at the auction until it is finished. As soon as you get into the to-and-fro of bidding against someone else, you will pay too much, and - very importantly - you leave yourself open to exploitation by sellers that employ shill-bidding tactics. This also goes for putting a max (proxy) bid directly into eBay (rather than using a sniper)- very easy for the seller (or another buyer) to just chip away at you to find out what your max is.

auctions via eBay are fundamentally broken at this point, but you can still do well, so long as you know it is broken, and employ workarounds to minimise the risk.

Remember, there are plenty of these books in circulation, and a lot less people that actually want them than you might think. I personally believe that - with the exception of very rare and signed items - prices are falling reasonably steadily. Unless you are in a money-no-object situation, just take your time. You won't end up missing out. :) Save over-paying for the genuinely rare stuff if you can!

Posted on: 2015/6/21 18:27


Re: History of Middle Earth - Deluxe Ltd 1000
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Tapuvae wrote:
I figured I would update this with some current values. I just won a set of three HOME editions still sealed for the following prices
Vol 1 - £266.00
Vol 2 - £252.22
Vol 3 - £203.26

You can see the prices have sort of stabilized for all three and likely I paid more for vol 2 and 3 after winning volume 1 for less than I thought.

I also won the LR and Hobbit from the same seller but lost the Silmarillion for WAY too much money. Oddly the seller has said he can get the Silmarillion from the winner, which to me implies the guy overpaid because he was revenge bidding me as he was underbidder of some sort on many of the other auctions. £175 for the Silmarillion is dealer pricing and it was sealed (which I understand is a risk given build issues with that book).



Glad you got the books. Fair prices, I think, for shrink-wrapped copies (maybe a little on the high side).

The seller of the Silmarillion was quite possibly shill-bidding (and accidentally came out on top), which is why he says he can get the book from the winner. Highly suspicious, at any rate. That or the winner has pulled out. Either way, avoid!


[Edit: I notice that a**m a relatively high, but non-winning bidder (except for the Sil) seems to have bid on all those auctions. Quite possibly completely 100% legitimate - but has a definite sour whiff, especially with the oddness around that Sil purchase. I've never heard of anyone "revenge bidding", and it seems pretty durned unlikely to me. It is a pity eBay has made it pretty much impossible to positively identify shill bidding, so it always has to remain an unproven suspicion]

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Re: Interesting eBay Auctions
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Trotter wrote:
Glad it went to a good home

I'm also not sure that pristine copies exist, if anyone has a pristine copy then I would love to see some pictures.



Indeed. Those damnable primary school children were so selfish, failing to maintain the condition of the books for future collectors! :) I suspect the nature of the beast is that these will be somewhat "used". Like you, I'd love to see a picture of a pristine example, should anyone be in possession of one.

Posted on: 2015/6/13 16:46


Re: Interesting eBay Auctions
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Trotter wrote:
A very uncommon Hobbit

eBay Item #181763616038


Thanks for the heads-up. I bought it, as I haven't got one of these, and I'm happy enough with the second impression (and unwilling to spend the big money on a pristine copy, if such a thing exists!).

Posted on: 2015/6/12 21:15



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