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Re: Fantastic (magazine) November 1976
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Aelfwine wrote:
Well, perhaps, but in this case I think Tolkien is dead on. The Dunsany story, e.g., (which is short and freely available on the web) really is _awful_, and its final paragraph truly execrable.



Yeah, I expect it was, but it does seem to be a common theme when he writes about the work of others. Or of course ot may just be that I make more of a mental note of certain types of comment and my memory tends to skip over the others. I'll have a re-read of Letters, etc at the weekend and see if I am imagining it.

Posted on: 2012/2/1 13:47


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Aelfwine wrote:
Here's what I've got with a bit of work; I think I can get more in time.

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Jirel of Joiry. Does create an atmosphere
and [?the] sinister 'corrupt' household of Alaric was
eerie and credible. But I never [sic] find phantasmal
struggles such as that of Jirel with 'Undead' Andred
quite unconvincing — especially when the victims escape!

Dunsany at his worst. Trying so hard for
the shudder. But not for a moment making the
tale 'credible' enough to {pro} make a background for
a strong [?e...]. And the ending lamentable — in
fact [?insulting]. In a world in which a Thangobrind
could even begin to be (let alone Hlo-hlo or [?all the rest])
early 19th century Riviera [?...] is surely utterly
impossible — or vice versa. And what is meant
by selling his daughter's soul.

Cappen Varra. Nomenclature v[ery] bad
Let us have genuine Scandanavian/Norse "bar-
barians" or something invented.

The Athammaus monster wholly unbelievable
[?…] disgusting [?... ... …]. There are lots
of ways of being [?... as] nastily, without all this
[?tooraloo] of nonsense.

Most of these things are overheated & exaggerated
([?...] bigger or [?would be] bigger, [?'...'] is
[?...] than the {ends} purposes warrant)
Also obviously over or ill-written.

Jirel of Joiry 140 - 146 is good but
needs a [?deft] story (and [?explication]) to [?...]
[?valid]. Dunsany's is one of his worst
That final ghastly paragraph!



IMHO Tolkien was very negative a lot of the time. I always think that although I really like (some) of his work, I would have struggled with the man himself.

Posted on: 2012/2/1 2:08


Re: 4-Book Tolkien Deluxe Edition Collection Set from HC
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Beren wrote:
no indeed they are not 1/1/1/1 - some are 1/1/1/2 some 1/1/1/3 but since they are all closed in original boxes is hard to check. They originally made 500 sets, filling them up with the remainder of the deluxe editions. Since then another batch was made, so far I think that was again 500 but need to ask to be certain.

Difference will be probably that inside sit later impression - that must be it.


Thanks for that - Gotta love HC with their limited editions that are only limited right up to them printing another batch. I guess that the only volumes that could be of later editions in the second batch would be LOTR and The Hobbit as IIRC CoH and Sil only have one printing thus far anyway.

Posted on: 2012/1/31 2:47


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Beren wrote:
Hey Stu... I'm selling them for 330 GBP and there is always room for a reduction and free postal costs... I'm not listing in pounds but in euro!! Makes a big difference. And also the ones I'm selling are the first editions that were released (when there were still only 500 copies made). Back then there were no reductions and postal costs of tolkien.co.uk were sky high - think maybe do remember that time. I believe I ordered over 100 of those sets back then and have almost none left. My customers have been happy that I do ship to the US, Brazil, China, Japan, Australia, you name it. Always provide perfect packaging and follow up. Anyways... I don't like to use this site to promote my business. But at first I did just make it possible for people outside the UK to get hold of the sets. It was by the way very hard to get them to ship these outside the UK back then...



Hi Beren,

Yes, I do indeed remember the early HC postage costs (I think my first SD CoH cost 45 pounds to ship to Australia!!), and understand that you gave a valuable route for people in the US to get their mitts on these books in the early days of the release.

Are those copies that you are selling the 1/1/1/2 editions (like mine), though? My understanding is that there were never any sets issued with 1/1/1/1 because the first print of LOTR was already sold out when the set was issued?

Also, are you aware if more than 500 sets were actually made or if they just stopped mentioning the 500 set limitation on the site? Also, if there were indeed more printed, what is the difference between the first 500 and the subsequent ones?

Cheers
Stu

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Karl wrote:
I've sent HC an email about shipping to the US and a possible discount; I'm awaiting their reply. Stu - 145 GBP sounds like a good price for the set - do you think a similar discount is likely to happen again in the near future? Does anyone have experience asking HC for a discount on an item and getting one? I'd seen that they ship outside the UK, but when I try to purchase the item, I get the message: "Sorry but the following products are not available for sale to your country and will be removed from your basket." Thus I'm not so optimistic they'll ship to me.

So I've got some conflicting opinions: 200 GBP is too much Stu says; Beren could sell it to me for more. Anyone else want to weigh in?

Beren - what's your price?



Hi Karl,

It may be that HC didn't get the exemption that would allow them to sell the boxed set to the US. They certainly did get an agreement (with HMH presumably) that allowed them to sell the Super-deluxe volumes direct to the US.

HC used to periodically do fairly regular discounts across the board (usually 30 or 40 percent), but I'm no longer on their mailing list (as I changed email addresses and their website doesn't actually allow you to update your email address!). I'm not sure if they still do these routinely or if they just have occasional discounts on selected products or groups of products. Their website is crap and doesn't always even give you the advertised discount on a product!

With regards to Beren's price -- obviously he has paid to purchase the book up front (and may well have paid full retail in the hope the set would sell out and go up in value), so I imagine he would have to charge more than the 200 just to cover his sunk costs (although I can't speak for him -- this is purely supposition). Obviously you wouldn't pay the (speculative) 400 pounds that he has it advertised for unless you were a total loony.

[EDIT: Beren has corrected me that the price is GBP 330 - That'll teach me not to rely on my dubious memory! Sorry, Beren]

In terms of purchasing from HC, I am aware of people asking for (and being given) 30% discounts on the Super-Deluxe books, so it would not be unprecedented to be given a discount that was not advertised.

Cheers
Stu

Posted on: 2012/1/30 23:34

Edited by Stu on 2012/1/31 2:05:53



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