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Re: Recommendations for Tolkien facsimile dust jackets
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Probably worth mentioning as well that Mark is not the only supplier of jackets that are incorrect, as it seems that there may have been some re-scanning of the bad facsimiles in order to create new ones. If you are in the market for a jacket from *any supplier of jackets* you need to check the runes in the bottom right and/or directly above and below the spine. These will be completely different from that of a legit UK jacket.

There are several other faults on the jackets (such as the sizing of spine text, the cutoff point of the main image, noticeable on the clouds at the top right of the front, the cutoff point of the picture at the bottom), but these are the dead obvious* ones.

(* So dead obvious that I initially tried to copy them when creating my jacket! Thanks to Trotter for setting me straight as to what was right/wrong when I brought the differences to his attention).

Posted on: 7/8 16:12:17


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Well, here is a quarter size version of my efforts. I started with my 1985 4th Edition Dust Jacket and worked from there using a low-res scan of a 1937 jacket (as a disposable background layer that I could flick into view to see how things were progressing) coupled with Trotter's photos of his 4th Impression as a guide.

Changes from the initial 1985 Scan ->
Front Cover:
*Moved "HOBBIT" to the right. Repaired Background
*Moved "THE" to the right/up and reduced in size. Repaired Background
*Moved "J. R. R. Tolkien" to the right. Repaired Background
*Adjusted Runes to lower right corner (not sure if this is correct on the 4th impression)
*Adjusted Mountains where white colouring differed
*Adjusted white foam to river
*Added white layer to bottom row of trees (also to rear)
*Added white layer to third row of trees (also to rear)
*Adjusted trees in terms of where white/blue is visible.
*Adjusted clouds to right of "THE"
*Removed/Added white bits all of the place.
*Thinned-out and moved "by" text


(note did not shrink the whole thing vertically and upper right modify clouds -- initially did this, copying the 1937 (which shows more cloud), then realised not required for ’46)
(note 2 did not correct for minor difference at the bottom of the picture above the runes — appears much less significant on the 4th than the 1st)

Spine:
*Moved "H" downward slightly relative to "OBBIT". Increased Size and repositioned.
*Replaced "TOLKIEN" with larger lettering
*Replaced "GA&U" with correct "GEORGE ALLEN AND UNWIN" box
*Replaced several runes at Head of spine (definitely different on the ’37, appear to be different from looking at pictures of the ’46)
*Replaced several runes at Foot of spine (definitely different on the ’37, appear to be different from looking at pictures of the ’46)

All:
*Adjusted Green
*Adjusted Blue

Front Flap:
*Added 1946/4th Text - first three paragraphs from a 1st/4th scan (the front flap is tipped into my copy, so I had a source for this). Impression and cover attribution created manually in MS-Word.

Rear Flap:
*Added 1946/4th Text using a mixture of Times New Roman and Perpetua (Perpetua on its own required too much space between lines, so only used uppercase “M”, "j" and "q" — may revisit this)

Please feel free to point out any errors. Ta :)

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Re: Recommendations for Tolkien facsimile dust jackets
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Thanks, Trotter, that is very helpful. I'm currently trying to take a high-res scan of a 1980s A&U DJ (plucked from my shelf) and modify it back into being a reasonable representation of a 1st Ed wrapper. I figure it forces me to improve my graphic skills (which are limited). I'm just moving the main title around and resizing bits and bobs at the moment. I have a lowish res scan of a 1st which I have in a layer underneath to help me get things in the right place and I have "The Art of the Hobbit" to hand as well to snag a couple of bits and bobs from.

Amazing how essentially the same picture changed over the years.

(you are probably wondering why I don't just scan an old wrapper, and the answer is simple - I don't have any early Hobbits! My first Hardback copy came to me new in 1985 and I never purchased any earlier ones (a bit of a mistake with the benefit of hindsight!).

Posted on: 7/6 23:29:44


Re: Recommendations for Tolkien facsimile dust jackets
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I'm trying to mock up a facsimile DJ for a 4th Impression Hobbit (using various sources) to put on a "beater" ex-libris copy that I picked up for a few bucks. My choice is to get Mark at Facsimile Dust Jackets to resize a 1st imp jacket (which seems like overkill for a tatty old copy) or to have a go at making one myself using elements from other impressions, which has a bit of a fun aspect to it.

I've found a few photos on the internet that tell me most of what I need.

However, can anyone help me with the text that is inside the back flap? I only have a photo that is partially obscured, so I can't make out the text. The front flap isn't a problem - I've figured out the text for that from a similarly obscured picture coupled with the full info gleaned from other impressions.

If anyone knows the correct font for the text (should it even exist in electronic form), that would also be handy. Times New Roman is actually remarkably close, with the chief difference being the "M"s, which do not have slanted sides.

Ta in advance for any help.

Edit: Found what I need in an earlier post by Trotter:

http://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... ewtopic.php?topic_id=1763


Edit: I figure that it will end up something like this (this is just a low res version for getting the layout right to fit in the book and look vaguely authentic). The exact sizing and spacing of the text will take a bit of mucking about, but it doesn't need to perfect - not like I'm trying to pass it off as real.

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Re: Possible unpublished Tolkien letter
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Khamûl wrote:
Interesting; thanks for posting Trotter.

I'm always curious as to what permissions are sought or given for publishing such things. I think it's been mentioned here before, in regard to the publishing of extracts only & also for auction houses to show letter(s) content simply by the fact that they've photographed them; the content of Tolkien's letters, regardless of who owns them, resides, from a copyright perspective, with the Tolkien Estate; does it not? Would permission have been sought here? Or is the content too redacted &/or insignificant? Just curious...

BH


Copyright is indeed retained by the Tolkien Estate. Snippets could most likely be posted under the "Fair Use" doctrine, but anything more sizeable (such as printing an entire letter) would certainly require permission.

Posted on: 7/6 15:06:37



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