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Re: Super Deluxe values
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@boneschops - I would pick them up on eBay. I think you can probably do better than the two-for-one, particularly with S&G.

Posted on: 2010/12/30 15:56


Re: Cancelled - Wheelbarrows at Dawn: Memories of Hilary Tolkien
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"You also have to see that the copyright is there "possession" - and so if you want to do anything you will need to ask permission. Why is it logic so for people to ask permission to lend items, to enter archives, etc but think they can publish anything they like. It is not because I own many handwritten letters by J.R.R. Tolkien that I can just start publishing them... don't you see the logic?"

Of course anything written by Tolkien would naturally be the IP of his estate (although I believe this is not necessarily the case in all locales). Anyway, I'm not arguing that anyone should be able to publish anything that they like, and anything that is published needs to be demonstrably factual (and certainly not libelous, especially in the UK). Most books about Tolkien that would feature small extracts of his work for the purposes of criticism would be covered by the doctrine of fair use. There is really absolutely no requirement to have the authorisation of the estate to write a book about Tolkien, depending on the content. I'm sure plenty of books about Tolkien do not have any explicit approval. If the book uses material copyright of the estate, then that is another matter (again, subject to fair use).

However, where an author or estate is very powerful, challenging that something falls under the fair use doctrine is probably next to impossible.

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Posted on: 2010/11/9 2:43


Re: Cancelled - Wheelbarrows at Dawn: Memories of Hilary Tolkien
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Beren wrote:

" I don't agree on your vision of the Tolkien's Estate purpose - they are the legal body who manage mainly the copyright of Tolkien. Which was asked so by J.R.R. Tolkien in his will. "

The sole purpose of copyright itself is to control "monetization" of the work under copyright. Such laws exist to ensure that the resource continues to be a viable source of revenue for the entity that holds the copyright. Do you believe that the copyright would have been allowed to expire and his work would have gone into the public domain if Tolkien had not expressly made requests in his will?? I hardly think so!

[Edit: Although I accept they might not be quite as evil as I portray - I do have somewhat of a negative view of the establishment and consider pretty much everyone and everything in the universe to be evil -- the posters on this forum excepted, of course!]

[Edit2: I suppose my two cats are not strictly speaking evil, but are certainly very, very, very naughty. Oh, and and my wife (who is a paediatric emergency doctor) might also not *technically* be evil, but again fairly pesky sometimes, especially after a night shift]

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Posted on: 2010/11/9 1:24

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Re: Cancelled - Wheelbarrows at Dawn: Memories of Hilary Tolkien
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The Tolkien Estate's purpose in life is, of course, to continue to monetize Tolkien's work to the maximum extent possible and squeeze every last penny from the buying public. Unfortunately, I think this means they have to try to protect an authorised "reality" (which may well be distinct from actual reality).

That said, I'm personally not quite sure what is terribly interesting about the brother of someone famous (but perhaps I would have discovered something unexpected if I had had the opportunity to read the book). In truth, whilst [JRR] Tolkien's literary output interests me, the man himself not so much. Likewise, I tend to feel that his brother would only be of interest in the context of his own work.

Still, I think it is a real shame for those who who have put in a lot of effort to create this book and for those whose tastes differ from my own and would have gained value from it. I think it is a pity that the official Tolkien establishment cares so little about the kinds of people who cherish it's output the most. A pity, but not a surprise.

Stu

Posted on: 2010/11/8 21:04


Re: How important is condition with HOME 1/1 value?
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Depends what you mean by "VG" - book grading is so damn subjective that I find it fairly meaningless (I tend to make the assumption that VG means "a bit tatty" as that seems to be the way most dealers grade things).

I would say that for anything other than the final two books, there is no need to pay a lot for F/NF copies. UK HoME 1/1 copies were printed in varying, but fairly large numbers (in the 3,500 - 7,500 sort of range). Only the final two might prove tricky because the price is usually steep on those ones, irrespective of condition. I don't believe there is any real logic behind the pricing of 11 and 12 (and to a lesser degree, 10), but there is a false belief in their rarity which seems to feed the pricing. If possible, get priced copies as these seem to be more highly prized.

If you are in no hurry and are in the UK, just take your time. The availability of UK 1/1 HoME has consistently improved over the last few years and the price has correspondingly dropped (and continues to do so). .

Your trick will be getting the Unfinished Tales with the matching HoME cover to complete the set. That one took me years and is the only one that would be difficult to replace!

Stu

Posted on: 2010/9/19 16:49



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