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Re: Is Collecting Books This Hard?
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Tapuvae (Chris) wrote:
https://historical.ha.com/itm/books/sc ... &tab=MyTrackedLots-101116

Heritage uses beautiful large format images as well. There was a second Hobbit and two lots for LOTR in this auction as well, it slipped my mind that it closed today.

I haven't done my homework on these early editions to know what flaws to look for or if this jacket is respectable or acceptable to the book world (28k dollars suggests so). Also, I may be spending too much time in the comic art and vintage toy world, because if this is really the cream of the crop then 28k is really quite a low value. This doesn't come near top end pieces in any of the other things I collect.


The jacket has had restoration. It would probably have been worth more if it was an unrestored jacket in the same condition. At the end of the day, these early jackets are very delicate, so that copy has a lovely jacket. If it was a 1971 copy, it would be considered a crap jacket (amazing what a difference 35 years and production volume makes). These kinds of books and prices are not even on my radar, though. I wouldn't want the burden of looking after (storing, insuring) that kind of value of book. I'd be getting an inexpensive (in relative terms) copy and using a facsimile jacket, keeping the rest of the money in the bank!

My main observation is that there are more 1937 1sts and 2nds coming to market at the moment, so it feels like that is not a situation where these would be a bankable investment. I could be entirely wrong.

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Re: Is Collecting Books This Hard?
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As requested, pictures of my copy (without the mylar protector). Even with this copy, one can find slight imperfections, but one has to be realistic -- these are things made out of paper and cloth that had to be bound, packaged, shipped, stored, etc. BUT, there were 250,000 copies printed -- that is a lot to choose from.

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Re: Is Collecting Books This Hard?
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The_Antiquarian wrote:

Mr. Stu, I am very much intrigued. By any chance, have you taken pictures of this beautiful copy of Silmarillion in pristine condition? I would very much like to see it and use it as a reference when I purchase other Silmarillion!



I'm sure I posted some pictures up here at one point when previously discussing Sils, but finding the thread is probably impossible. I'll either dig out some existing photos or take some for you.

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Tapuvae (Chris) wrote:
Surely there are exceptions and for these early editions it isn't an either or thing. You buy the copy you can afford basically. But for books that aren't particularly rare that were largely made to be collected (like the editions I linked to above) the expectation is that they weren't read, maybe thumbed through, but that's it. How many people use the COH SD for their reading copy?

Speaking of early editions, anyone following the sets offered on Heritage this month? I'd love to hear opinions on the first, first Hobbit, especially the restored jacket.



This is definitely the case. Early Hobbits (the first 4) would be an example of titles that are just too expensive (for me) to purchase in anything other than poor condition. Realistically, I'll likely never collect the first 3 impressions, as I'm happy enough with my tatty 4th (which was very cheap!).

I think my condition expectation with Hobbits slowly increases throughout the second edition, and from the late 1950s onward, I don't see much point in buying anything other than near fine (or close to). I genuinely don't care whether I buy the book now or in a decade, which gives a lot more likelihood of buying a nice book at a sensible price.

For the modern collector editions, I figure you might as well get fine copies, as very few of them will have been read anyway. That said, I largely lost interest in books that were created specifically to be collectables. I don't have them all, and have no interest in collecting the ones I haven't got. I find standard editions of (older) books to be a lot more "honest". The pleasure I get from finding (for example) a really nice Longman's Hobbit far exceeds that which I get from acquiring a deluxe edition.

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Khamûl wrote:
So let's put this out there for discussion then: why do you seek these perfect, unmarked copies? Why do you not want to own books that show signs of wear &/or previous ownership? I can guess the answer(s), but curious nonetheless...

BH


I prefer books to be in fine condition if possible, just because they are more visually appealing. And realistically, the only point of collecting lots of editions of the same book is because they are nice to look at (coupled with the fun of the chase, I guess). If you *can* find a fine copy and it doesn't cost any more than a not so good copy, why would you buy anything other than the fine one, unless you were in a particular hurry?

I do think there is a point where one can be too fanatical, though -- books are made from materials that age and expecting anything different is probably a road to disappointment. I see people who keep their books in shrinkwrap and I think "really, what is the point?".

Posted on: 9/14 3:18:04



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