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The Oxford Book of Greek Verse in Translation [1938]
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Some web sites (Tolkienbooks.net and Tolkien Library) include The Oxford Book of Greek Verse in Translation in the JRRT bibliographies.

Tolkienbooks.net lists the work under "Other Credits", saying that "Tolkien helped with 'Introduction Part II - Greek Poetry in Translation'.", and gives 1944 as the publication year.

Tolkien Library gives 1938 as the publication year.

Amazon.co.uk also has 1938 as the publication year, saying it was the 2nd edition.

The Oxford Book of Greek Verse in Translation is not included in the section "Published Writings by JRRT" in the JRRT Companion and Guide (I'm eagerly awaiting the promised new edition of the JRRT: A Descriptive Bibliography!). Can anyone point me to a published source which includes a description of this book in relation Tolkien's alleged contribution?

Was there an edition of this book published before 1938 (the 1st edition?), and did Tolkien not contribute to this edition?

Thank you!

Posted on: 2011/4/20 14:13

Edited by Khamul on 2011/10/1 13:22:55


Re: "Introduction to Elder Edda" by Tolkien?
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Yes, I believe you're right. I enlarged the image in Photoshop, and it appears like the name "John Ronald Tolkien" has been inserted (there are no pixels in various blue nuances around this piece of text, as is the case with the rest of the image).

What a prank!

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Posted on: 2011/3/6 8:27


"Introduction to Elder Edda" by Tolkien?
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While browsing on internet, I found a cover (which I've never seen before) of a book apparently entitled Introduction to [The?] Elder Edda: A Selection translated from the Icelandic by J.R.R. Tolkien, edited[?] by Peter H. Salus and Paul B. Taylor.

The book doesn't turn up on Amazon - anyone knows anything about this book? Is it a "real" cover or just a fan creation?

The cover looks a bit typographically similar to that of this book:

"The Elder Edda: A Selection translated by Paul B. Taylor and W.H. Auden" at Amazon.co.uk

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Posted on: 2011/3/6 8:08


Re: "A Middle English Vocabulary" scam
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Thank you Trotter and Aelfwine for the clarifications and suggestions.

So, if I understand the situation correctly, the copyright of the original publication has expired. Would this then mean that the work can be reprinted in whatever way and by whoever, without the approval of the Tolkien Estate/Tolkien Trust?

If this is the case, then why do the publishers market the book as written by "J R. R. 1892-1973 Tolkien" - just out of ignorance? Or is it a strange attempt to elude legal actions?

In any case, IMO it would be nice, as Beren states on Tolkien Library, to see a "proper" reprint, using the original cover. While I see the great value of free pdfs, I don't trust that everything is rendered 100% correct in such copies (e.g., diacritics are often missing). (edit: I saw that the link Trotter provided also included a scan of the whole publication)

Posted on: 2011/1/20 12:06

Edited by Morgan on 2011/1/20 12:16:34
Edited by Morgan on 2011/1/20 12:43:49


"A Middle English Vocabulary" scam?
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I just came from reading the new post on Tolkien Library concerning a pirate reprint of A Middle English Vocabulary.

A middle English vocabulary by J R.R. 1892-1973 Tolkien?

It's sad news indeed!

Beren mentions that the original book was published in 1923 - does this actually make the book a part of the "public domain" (at least in some countries)? Could we therefore hope for better reprints? (Unfortunately, not everyone has the money to buy the original!)

Posted on: 2011/1/20 5:55

Edited by Trotter on 2011/1/20 10:46:41
Edited by Trotter on 2011/1/20 11:33:48



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