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19 Feb, 2012
2012-2-19 7:52:25 PM UTC
That's odd, Khamul ... I don't seem to have a signed red leather super deluxe ...

- wellinghall
19 Feb, 2012
2012-2-19 8:31:25 PM UTC
That 'signed' Tolkien Reader looks like a load of tosh.
19 Feb, 2012
2012-2-19 8:41:45 PM UTC
Are you looking for one Wellinghall? I have one kicking around with a few loose pages. I didn't pay much more for it than you paid for that 1978 dummy copy of yours!

BH
21 Feb, 2012
2012-2-21 8:00:31 AM UTC
"The great Mongol hordes were an inspiration to J.R.R. Tolkien, who was writing his whimsical series of novels at the same time as Lamb was working on this. His Lord of the Rings was in fact a rosy pastiche based fancifully on the very times that Ghengis and his hordes conquered Europe as far as Poland. Inasmuch as you can line up historical facts with Tolkein's fairy world, you might say that the orcs are generally the Mongols and Muslims invading from the east and south, Minas Tirith was the city of Byzantium, Osgiliath was the ruins of Rome, Rohan was the Germanic peoples, and Aragorn was partly borrowed from the Emperor Frederick. Numenor was the ancient Romans, and the Shire was, of course, Merry Olde England."

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21 Feb, 2012 (edited)
2012-2-21 11:35:06 PM UTC
What would you do if you had a first edition, first impression of one of the most desirable books of 20th century literature, I speak of the UK first edition, first impression of J R R Tolkien's "The Return of the King" published by George Allen and Unwin in 1955 completed with map and internally complete and undamaged.

Would you like the previous owner chose to cover the book in sticky back plastic and even worse stick the plastic covering down to the pasteboards. I thought not. Nevertheless we must grit our teeth and say that whatever, it is an incredibly rare and sought after book. After the meteor strikes or the Iran launches its nuclear bomb two things will be unaffected, cockroaches and sticky back plastic.

Anyway I have taken scans of this book from every angle so it is revealed in all its horrors and glories but I am happy to take condition questions.

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22 Feb, 2012
2012-2-22 8:39:59 PM UTC
This guy has got to be kidding - $45!. I picked this paperback up in a used book store recently for less than $1. They say ebay is a gong show and I guess it's self-proclaimed "experts" like this that make it that way.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/YOUNG-MAGICIAN ... tible&hash=item19ce01fa0e


24 Feb, 2012
2012-2-24 9:14:59 PM UTC
Special De luxe issue? Limited numbers?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOLKIEN-GUIDE ... Books&hash=item19ce03b2ba

quote - Like most expensive deluxe editions, only a certain number will be printed, and when they are gone, they will SKYROCKET in price, just like the History of the World anthologies which are now selling for 5 times their original release price! If you are a Tolkien collector, get this NOW while the price is only moderatly unreasonable... :)



25 Feb, 2012
2012-2-25 12:43:35 AM UTC

garm wrote:
Special De luxe issue? Limited numbers?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOLKIEN-GUIDE ... Books&hash=item19ce03b2ba

quote - Like most expensive deluxe editions, only a certain number will be printed, and when they are gone, they will SKYROCKET in price, just like the History of the World anthologies which are now selling for 5 times their original release price! If you are a Tolkien collector, get this NOW while the price is only moderatly unreasonable... :)




Yep, good old alan-53 who always writes this big spiel about how he hates people being ripped off by so-called-rare items that aren't and then always proceeds to create listings that many would consider to be ripping people off with so-called-rare items that aren't. I think he is about the worst Tolkien offender on eBay.

Stu
2 Mar, 2012
2012-3-2 4:51:33 PM UTC
I once asked alan-53 about the review copy of The Silmarillion that he has listed; it's been listed for a few years now.

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He has up an image of the 2007 cover, but claims it has a 1999 review slip laid-in. I've no doubt he actually does have a 1999 copy, but has lazily listed with an image which is not the item in question. (Either that, or the 1999 reference is in error.) Anyway, despite the fact that I'm very much the kind of person to buy this sort of item (if he had just clarified what was for sale), I ended up not, as the reply was so hostile. Still for sale, a couple of years later...

BH

2 Mar, 2012
2012-3-2 5:22:12 PM UTC
This is actually a sort-of serious point. I often wonder what people think when they read these kind of disclaimers; & what purpose the sellers, who use them, feel they ultimately have.

eBay seller dogfark has the following disclaimer, in relation to refunds:-
If physical condition not as described or has been seriously misrepresented. No refund, warranty, implied or stated, is offered on the accuracy of the description, scarcity and value. On higher priced books, it is always recommended the buyer seek expert advice before making a bid.

Quite why, as a seller, you would contemplate any of the detail in your listing as possibly being construed as "seriously misrepresented", I don't know. The second sentence, to me, makes little sense e.g. a refund would be given (under the terms the seller themselves states in the preceding sentence) if the description wasn't accurate.

Anyway, it's really the last statement that baffles me. In the Festival Art and Books website Mark Faith (I assume, since the website address is still "MarkFaithBooks.com") states:-
I deal primarily in modern first editions specializing in the authors Tolkien and Wilbur A. Smith...

and, further on:-
Within J.R.R Tolkien, I deal mostly in early, expensive first edition books as well as Tolkien related art and other memorabilia as this is linked to another business venture of mine. I list only few titles, but provide a bespoke sourcing service, both buying and selling, for private collectors....

I just wonder why one would not expect Festival Art and Books themselves not to be expert enough. Why, when purchasing something expensive, would I not expect this Tolkien "specialist", & someone who mainly deals in early (& expensive) first editions books, to provide this level of security when I purchase from them? Why would I feel it necessary to go and consult another "expert" before bidding?

This kind of disclaimer puts me off, as a buyer. The same applies when a seller offers no refund. Any thoughts?

BH
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