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24 Feb, 2010
2010-2-24 9:42:25 PM UTC
hey David (or so hope it is you)... thanks for showing this... had not seen it. I'm really angry and want this seller to be stopped. He is flooding the market with fakes and destroying the credibility of serious sellers.
24 Feb, 2010
2010-2-24 9:49:55 PM UTC
Hi Beren, yes it is me. I've tried many times in the past, and it just does not do any good to complain to ebay. You can't warn off unsuspecting bidders either with the new hidden monikers, so not much anyone can do about it. About the only recourse seems to be posting here, so maybe someone may see it before they bid.
24 Feb, 2010
2010-2-24 10:07:29 PM UTC
"The signature does however appear to be that of Tolkien and matches up to posted examples very favourably." --that will be example postd here on TCG!

Beren, did you read my comments in the private forum?

BH
25 Feb, 2010
2010-2-25 12:18:17 AM UTC
I just noticed the "signed" illustration on ebay and came here to post it in the forum. Looks like David beat me to it! I also have tried to contact ebay repeatedly about these kind of things, but the effectiveness is very questionable. I have to agree that this forum is a great place to flag these fakes. After all, nothing seems to get past this group.

It is a shame that some people get ripped off by these clowns. However, people should also have some common sense. If people just do a little research, making a bad purchase can usually be avoided.

It's also too bad there isn't a place on ebay to advertise TCG as a place to help authenticate Tolkien autographs. We could almost just list our own auctions as "J.R.R. Tolkien Autograph", and then just make the listing a warning about fraudulent autographs. You could potentially add a link to this thread, stating that it is a great place to research the authenticity of autographs. A lot of times they have free auction style listings, so listing something for $0.01, and stating that it is information only, might be feasible. Nobody would have to buy anything, they would just have to read the auction listing. I am sure that ebay would frown on such a marketing-style listing, but it might be another way to get their attention. I, for one, would be willing to try something like this. Any other ideas (or feedback on this one)?

P.S. TCG wouldn't necessarily have to be mentioned in such an auction, and I personally would never mention this site without the approval of TCG and its members (wouldn't want to implicate any unwilling parties or persons in my scheme!).
26 Feb, 2010
2010-2-26 11:50:39 AM UTC
Ha, that Signed Tolkien Illustration is hilariously bad; almost as good as that typewriter.

alpingloin:
Your idea is good. It probably wont be noticed by many people but there is no harm in doing it.
23 Mar, 2010
2010-3-23 11:55:09 PM UTC
24 Mar, 2010
2010-3-24 6:45:52 AM UTC
This one was recently sold and brought (assumingly by ebay seller) at an auction. Regretably i couldnt attend myself and missed seeing it. I am awaiting a reply from seller but it certainly looks interesting?
25 Mar, 2010
2010-3-25 1:43:16 AM UTC
The latest (which went unsold, with no bids) is a standard Allen & Unwin internal memo of the period. We've seen many examples. Nor do we have any problem with the signature and date on the verso being in Tolkien's hand. The event to which Tolkien was driven on 14 July 1972, at the Allen & Unwin offices and warehouses at Hemel Hempstead, is mentioned in our Chronology, p. 765, and in Letters, p. 421.

Wayne & Christina
25 Mar, 2010
2010-3-25 7:56:57 AM UTC
Thanks Wayne & Chistina
I took a punt and brought it. I knew it had come from the son of the driver and with a few enquiries as well I was fairly confident (although I did miss the letters entry) it was genuine.
Awaiting its arrival. I always said I wouldnt bow to buying signature as overpriced but there you go.

CANT WAIT!
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