I noticed we had a response from the Tolkien Estate to another post on this forum, I'd really like to see them get involved with stopping this seller from selling anymore 'Tolkien' signed items.
Never seen this. What kind of rubbish is this?
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/TOLKIEN-WATERCOLOR-/180608207902?pt=Art_Drawings&hash=item2a0d168c1e#ht_4377wt_1139
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/TOLKIEN-WATERCOLOR-/180608207902?pt=Art_Drawings&hash=item2a0d168c1e#ht_4377wt_1139
Clearly an allegorical treatment of Tolkien's feelings on the death of CS Lewis- 'An axe-blow near the roots'.
I wish I were as clever as the vendor, 'cos then I might have a clue as to what this bit is about -
"The work is not supplied with certificate of authenticity and guarantee (as has never been subject to assessment, evaluation expertise) and then, having regard to the recognition and similarity to the stykle of the author, is proposed as a copy of copyright, falsecopyright, in the manner of the author, under Article 8 of the Law of 20 November 1971, n.1062 (Official Gazette No. 318 on December 17)"
As it is, I'm stumped (pardon the pun).
I wish I were as clever as the vendor, 'cos then I might have a clue as to what this bit is about -
"The work is not supplied with certificate of authenticity and guarantee (as has never been subject to assessment, evaluation expertise) and then, having regard to the recognition and similarity to the stykle of the author, is proposed as a copy of copyright, falsecopyright, in the manner of the author, under Article 8 of the Law of 20 November 1971, n.1062 (Official Gazette No. 318 on December 17)"
As it is, I'm stumped (pardon the pun).
Heh. Here is my take at translating:
"This has never been seen by an expert..."
"but it looks like Tolkien's artwork to me..."
"so I hereby state that this is a fake..."
"with some really official sounding garbage to make this seem real."
"The work is not supplied with certificate of authenticity and guarantee (as has never been subject to assessment, evaluation expertise)..."
"This has never been seen by an expert..."
"and then, having regard to the recognition and similarity to the style of the author,..."
"but it looks like Tolkien's artwork to me..."
"is proposed as a copy of copyright, falsecopyright, in the manner of the author,..."
"so I hereby state that this is a fake..."
"under Article 8 of the Law of 20 November 1971, n.1062 (Official Gazette No. 318 on December 17)"
"with some really official sounding garbage to make this seem real."
Just found this in my loft (I think it was a present for a Doctor Higgins), and I offer the same guarantees as the eBay seller.
6 Jan, 2011
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2011-1-6 9:38:33 PM UTC
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Edited by Urul�k� on 2011-1-24 7:18:14 PM UTC
2011-1-6 9:38:33 PM UTC
'nother one from cavorite -
http://cgi.ebay.com/J-R-R-Tolkien-Per ... tible&hash=item2eb27528a1
- it's new to me.
http://cgi.ebay.com/J-R-R-Tolkien-Per ... tible&hash=item2eb27528a1
- it's new to me.
6 Jan, 2011
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2011-1-6 9:41:13 PM UTC
Edited by Urul�k� on 2011-1-24 7:19:45 PM UTC
Edited by Urul�k� on 2011-1-24 7:21:15 PM UTC
Edited by Urul�k� on 2011-1-24 7:24:49 PM UTC
Edited by Urul�k� on 2011-1-24 7:26:01 PM UTC
Edited by Urul�k� on 2011-1-24 7:21:15 PM UTC
Edited by Urul�k� on 2011-1-24 7:24:49 PM UTC
Edited by Urul�k� on 2011-1-24 7:26:01 PM UTC
2011-1-6 9:41:13 PM UTC
The second letter (moon-lather) is the first of these fake letters that we saw referenced here (from 2 years ago)
https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... ost_id=4424#forumpost4424
"This and one other signed letter are the last of a collection of Tolien(sic)items fakes."
Looks like he has managed to sell all the fakes thanks to eBay.
https://www.tolkienguide.com/modules/n ... ost_id=4424#forumpost4424
"This and one other signed letter are the last of a collection of Tolien(sic)
Looks like he has managed to sell all the fakes thanks to eBay.