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Re: Tolkien US Editions
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I have dusted off a copy of the Hobbit and compared the runes on the map with those on the cover of Easton's. It looks like Easton press has it correct in the two spots you mention Urulókë.

The errors (or differences) are on the second line.

1. Between the "M" and the "P" is a dot on my map, and two vertical bars on the Easton Press cover

2. Also after the same "P" as mentioned ad 1. there is a rune missing on the Easton Press cover

Posted on: 2011/10/7 14:56


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And of course as mentioned the middle section is missing (intentionally).

Maybe we should mail Easton Press and they will correct it implying a second edition

Posted on: 2011/10/7 14:58


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Can you provide an image of your copy, SonOfDolf? I think I understand what you are saying, but there are two occurances of M & P on that line, so I am not 100% sure...

Also, here is another image that clearly shows the first rune (on the second line) as having been corrected:



The fourth line still appears to have the wrong rune. I found a better image (more accurate ) to show what I am talking about.



I have marked the rune in question. Note that it is not the same rune as the one in blue, but Easton's is appears to be the same. Can you confirm? it is hard to tell from just cover scans, perhaps the right side of the Easton rune is not vertically connected, which would make it correct.

Posted on: 2011/10/7 15:12
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In my copy the 4th and the 5th rune on the second line are switched. This from a 2nd impression of the 1976 Allen&Unwin deluxe edition. Will update with an image soon.

Here it is:

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Posted on: 2011/10/7 15:20


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Reading from this link
http://mulubinba.typepad.com/ra_viewe ... f/2011/04/thrors-map.html

it looks like my map is correct!

Stand by the grey stone when the thrush knocks, and the setting sun with the last light will shine on Durin's Day will shine upon the key-hole

"when" - the rune for w is a "P"

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edit: I'm confused now because I checked another Hobbit (2004) and the runes are on the back of the map in mirror writing but taking that into account the order is the same as the Easton Press order.

edit 2: found this info: "Tolkien’s use of the runic alphabet is pretty
straightforward, but there is some variation between a strictly letter-for-letter transliteration (as in FIUE (‘five’) in which the silent ‘e’ is preserved)
and a more phonetic approach (for example,DoR for ‘door’ rather thanDooR). Also notable in the moon-letters is the use ofHWEN (‘hwen’) for ‘when’,
which follows Old English usage."

So in conclusion
1. the 1976 Hobbit is wrong after all.
2. Easton press has the right order, but there is a version of their Hobbit where the runic "H" is missing the middle bar

Posted on: 2011/10/7 15:47

Edited by SonOfDolf on 2011/10/7 16:10:26
Edited by SonOfDolf on 2011/10/7 16:30:28
Edited by SonOfDolf on 2011/10/7 16:38:19



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