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Re: The Wonders of eBay

Mar 2, 2012 - in Collector's Marketplace
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This is actually a sort-of serious point. I often wonder what people think when they read these kind of disclaimers; & what purpose the sellers, who use them, feel they ultimately have.

eBay seller dogfark has the following disclaimer, in relation to refunds:-
If physical condition not as described or has been seriously misrepresented. No refund, warranty, implied or stated, is offered on the accuracy of the description, scarcity and value. On higher priced books, it is always recommended the buyer seek expert advice before making a bid.


Quite why, as a seller, you would contemplate any of the detail in your listing as possibly being construed as "seriously misrepresented", I don't know. The second sentence, to me, makes little sense e.g. a refund would be given (under the terms the seller themselves states in the preceding sentence) if the description wasn't accurate.

Anyway, it's really the last statement that baffles me. In the Festival Art and Books website Mark Faith (I assume, since the website address is still "MarkFaithBooks.com") states:-
I deal primarily in modern first editions specializing in the authors Tolkien and Wilbur A. Smith...


and, further on:-
Within J.R.R Tolkien, I deal mostly in early, expensive first edition books as well as Tolkien related art and other memorabilia as this is linked to another business venture of mine. I list only few titles, but provide a bespoke sourcing service, both buying and selling, for private collectors....


I just wonder why one would not expect Festival Art and Books themselves not to be expert enough. Why, when purchasing something expensive, would I not expect this Tolkien "specialist", & someone who mainly deals in early (& expensive) first editions books, to provide this level of security when I purchase from them? Why would I feel it necessary to go and consult another "expert" before bidding?

This kind of disclaimer puts me off, as a buyer. The same applies when a seller offers no refund. Any thoughts?

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Re: The Wonders of eBay

Mar 2, 2012 - in Collector's Marketplace
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I once asked alan-53 about the review copy of The Silmarillion that he has listed; it's been listed for a few years now.

Delux British SILMARILLION New Text & MAP w/Tolkien Cvr

He has up an image of the 2007 cover, but claims it has a 1999 review slip laid-in. I've no doubt he actually does have a 1999 copy, but has lazily listed with an image which is not the item in question. (Either that, or the 1999 reference is in error.) Anyway, despite the fact that I'm very much the kind of person to buy this sort of item (if he had just clarified what was for sale), I ended up not, as the reply was so hostile. Still for sale, a couple of years later...

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Re: Gawain and the Green Knight

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Very nice. You've been a busy boy.
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Re: Early Hobbit Edition on Ebay

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I was going to say a couple of hundred, but I just noticed that you've started it at £400. Regardless of what people might pay, I think you've pitched the start price too high. Start lower --it will generate more interest & more bidding.

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Re: Book availability

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I know, bold doesn't show up in quote boxes that well. I did notice --just teasing; although, I don't think Wellinghall spotted it!

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Re: Insurance Appraisal

Feb 22, 2012 - in General Collecting Forum
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I basically agree with you laurel, but if your house burnt down, what evidence are you likely to have for 99% of your contents? None, as any evidence probably went up with the rest of your life! I just don't think you wouldn't get a payout in this situation.

But getting back to books, I've often wondered if you could get your "collection" itself insured. I wonder what these specialist book insurers actually do. You know, I have that flyer somewhere --I'll look it out & find out who they are etc.

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Re: Insurance Appraisal

Feb 21, 2012 - in General Collecting Forum (edited)
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Seriously, I don't think (books aside) you always need evidence of items, if they are stolen. I've never heard of anyone having a mobile phone stolen, for example, and having to prove the original purchase; or if they even still owned it (say, two or three years after purchase) when a house was broken into, for example. Do you? When you get contents insurance (aside from individual high value items) have you ever been asked by your insurer to provide evidence of why you want, say, £50,000 worth of insurance? Your clothes, furniture etc --why would you have proof of these items, or their value?

I'm sure books, in regard to collectors, would differ. But there's no real reason why they should.

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Re: Book availability

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Yeh, thanks Trotter, that was real helpful!

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Re: Insurance Appraisal

Feb 21, 2012 - in General Collecting Forum
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Note I merged this Wellinghall.

Hmm, I'm not sure. While I have no evidence either way (regarding books specifically) & don't want to test this suggestion --I don't see insurers asking for photographic evidence for anything else that is insured. High value electical items & gold/silver etc only require to be specifically named. They don't ask for receipts & photos before paying out.

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Re: The Wonders of eBay

Feb 19, 2012 - in Collector's Marketplace
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Are you looking for one Wellinghall? I have one kicking around with a few loose pages. I didn't pay much more for it than you paid for that 1978 dummy copy of yours!

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