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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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Has a COA "if you want one" too! Bonus.

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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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Are you really argumentative too?
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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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Or surely had an online argument with him at least...

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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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Come Aelfwine, what on earth do you know? Who even are you? Mark is the handwriting expert here. You'd think by the way you're talking you knew something about Tolkien manuscripts or had corresponded with Christopher. Pff.

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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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Some people (unlike your "old boss") copied this stuff before it was binned. HC also inherited some of the records; they're still there. To suggest everything out there that you disagree with is meaningless collector talk is clearly nonsense. Plus, this information vacuum is the same source of your expert knowledge; so clearly you're not to be believed either if your theory made any sense to begin with...

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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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No, let's not have a new topic. I'm calling you out here.

Let's get straight. These have been sold by HC as signed by CT & Ted. And this carries no weight in a discussion between someone (you) who claims they're not signed by CT & another (me) who belives that they are?

The onus is clearly on you to provide evidence that these signatures are not CTs. You have this I assume? And you provide COAs, correct? It's your professional opinion that these are fake; you've stated this in your previous post.
This is almost certainly not signed by Christopher Tolkien, but by the publisher on his behalf. We know this publisher well having worked with them ourselves. The signature is obviously not his.

If I contact HC I assume they'll confirm what you've said, correct? And if they confirm that they were signed by CT we can expect you to accept this?

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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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I still don't see you providing any evidence here.

Expertise does not trump provenance, Mark. COA's are worthless crap if they are issued by someone who has as little idea of the book provenance as I have. And this goes across the board for all collecting. Are you a handwrinting expert too?

When Ted Nasmith says to me (private correspondence) that he recalls signing these books and when people at HC talk about signing sheets being sent to France for CT to sign, I'm to think what exactly? That's these people are bare faced liars? Disbelieve all of these people (& we're talking publishing directors at HC here) & instead listen to you, Mark Faith.

Keep dreaming buddy.

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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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Who are these "amateur bloggers" you keep referring to? There are people on here who have been collecting, buying, & writing on Tolkien for as long as you claim to have been selling. Why should I listen to your opinion over theirs?

What, for example, makes your signed copy of The Silmarillion (that you're selling/sold) any more signed that this 1998 copy? Taking into account the fact that you have zero provenance with that copy since you just bought it off a guy on eBay.

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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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That's your résumé, Mark. I asked you what evidence you have. If you don't have any evidence it's okay to simply state that this is your opinion.

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Re: 1998 Silmarillion Fake Signatures

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Any evidence to support this claim?

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