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26 Mar, 2010
2010-3-26 7:10:36 PM UTC
The listing has, literally, just been pulled! (Didn't think my questioning was that bad...)

BH
26 Mar, 2010
2010-3-26 8:01:01 PM UTC
by Khamul on 2010/3/26 20:10:36 The listing has, literally, just been pulled! (Didn't think my questioning was that bad...) BH

That usually means that the item has been sold outside of eBay.

Did not read the blurb when I first posted this, just looked at the pictures, having read it what a lot of made up nonsense about Christopher and his father.
26 Mar, 2010
2010-3-26 8:02:45 PM UTC
Not sure, the seller just got back & said they'll put all my questions to the owner. I think they would have just said if it has been sold.

BH
26 Mar, 2010
2010-3-26 8:26:08 PM UTC
I am going to post the text from the seller here so that it does not vanish in a few months time when eBay removes the item. If anybody can contact Christopher then I think he should see what has been posted about him by this seller.

"Included in this auction is one of only 200 Hand-Signed, Special and Limited Edition The Silmarillion bookplates which was signed by J. R. R. Tolkien's youngest son, Christopher, at the premier release of J. R. R. Tolkien's final book. Tolkien passed away before the completion of The Silmarillion and Christopher completed his father’s final book. Scholars have debated for many years the historical significance of this book and the comparison to Tolkien's other works including The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. The circumstances surrounding and evolving from Tolkien's work and Tolkien's personal affairs has been examined as well. Tolkien was not known to have had a good relationship with his son Christopher but, during that generation (The Greatest Generation it is called) fathers were not typically known to be the warm and fuzzy or even talkative person that fathers are better known for today. This stress, like the stress between J.R.R. Tolkien's early works versus his last, the relationship between the two Tolkien's was stressed to the point that Christopher publicly discussed, a kind word to use, his father and the fact that The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit took the time which could of been spent with him.

All of this, the ending of two generations of literary work and the stress of the family relationship that came with it, came to both a conclusion and to a head upon the death of the older Tolkien. The great and agonizing irony was that Christopher then completed his father's last work, thereby becoming and playing the role that he had become so bitter about during his youth and teen aged years. Now he was the author. But not the author of "his" book but his father's book. Then to add a final touch of a cherry on top of it all, the younger Tolkien was there on the night of the world-release of The Silmarillion but rather than signing the book itself, he and the publisher compromised by having the young Tolkien sign a limited, 200 special bookplates which themselves were specially designed and printed with the title of the new book on them. This IS one of those 200 special bookplates and is the ONLY ONE this writer has ever seen. This is a piece of history; especially a part of Tolkien history and thereby a part of the history of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. The bookplate comes with a copy of a provenance letter from the publisher to a previous owner.

Details on the included copy of The Silmarillion : first U.K. domestic trade issue hardcover in an original dust jacket and a two-piece custom protective slipcase. "First published in 1977" is stated on the copyright page and no subsequent printings are mentioned. £4.95 price is intact on the jacket's front flap. Slipcase is in FINE condition. The outer piece features brown leather spine binding with gilt spine lettering. Jacket is in FINE condition aside from some very light bumping on the top and bottom edges of the spine and some faint toning throughout. Book is in NEAR FINE condition and is tightly bound with clean, crisp pages inside. Navy blue cloth-bound boards with gold spine lettering, some very faint wear to extremities, back board fans out very slightly. Pages have navy blue topstain and are clean with no stray marks or inscriptions from previous owners. Original fold-out map is present and intact.

This book with this very rare signed bookplate is valued at $2,000 - has any person seen another one of these bookplates for sale in the past 5-10 years? Here is your chance to make this amazing piece a part of your personal collection!"
26 Mar, 2010
2010-3-26 9:14:51 PM UTC
mmmm
how odd
I too asked a question re photocopy of letter? never heard anything back?

A nice item as you say -shame spoilt with dribble.
Bet we see it again soon?
26 Mar, 2010
2010-3-26 9:23:33 PM UTC
mmmm how odd I too asked a question re photocopy of letter? never heard anything back? A nice item as you say -shame spoilt with dribble. Bet we see it again soon?

I hope not, the seller needs to be very careful when making remarks about Christopher and his father which are very likely to end up in a court of law, I think he has already over stepped the mark.
29 Mar, 2010
2010-3-29 4:24:15 AM UTC
It has been re-listed, the comments about Christopher and his father have been changed from the original listing, a lot of the rubbish has been removed. I still don't understand why they posted it as it was in the first place, after all they are just trying to sell a book with a signed bookplate.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tolkien-SIGNED- ... tible?hash=item20b0342cc8
29 Mar, 2010
2010-3-29 6:38:51 PM UTC
This is the title of the re-listing - see if you can spot the mistake:

Tolkien SIGNED UK BPTrue1st J R R Most Rare! The Hobbit

- stoopid people!
31 Mar, 2010
2010-3-31 12:25:36 PM UTC
Anyone seen this yet?

http://cgi.ebay.com/JRR-Tolkien-SIGNE ... tible?hash=item5886e690f0

Apparently, it is the most rare Tolkien collectible in the universe!
31 Mar, 2010
2010-3-31 3:43:25 PM UTC
OMG that is so K00l!

I have never liked the hyperbole used by flatsigned.com. Though I am sure they have sold a lot of perfectly legitimate books, I have never had the slightest desire to bid on something they are selling.
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