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By laurel

Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???

Nov 16, 2009 - in Signatures and Autographs
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Hello collector .Welcome to the forum.
I am sorry but you have missed the point here. We know Tolkien went on holiday to Milford and doctor was Higgins at one stage in life but why would he write letters, not post them and then leave in the loft so his cleaner/ friends could gather just before house was demolished, along with signed books? Or was the signed Hobbit recently sold by said seller a 'sleeper' book- i just cant remeber his story changed that much!
How are you so sure they are original ? You sound very informative ? Have you done deep study on it?
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By Jlong

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To my knowledge, Wayne and Christina remain the best authorities on Tolkien and his life. As they observe, "We too have significant doubts about the 'Higgins' letters. We've seen no evidence of Higgins, as Tolkien's doctor, friend, or otherwise, outside of the letters offered on eBay."

Collector, if you have further evidence that could prove otherwise, I'd be more than interested in what you might have to say.
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Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???

Nov 16, 2009 - in Signatures and Autographs
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What do people think about this signed copy of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight?


By garm

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Can't say I've seen a Tolkien signature with what looks like an 'X' type mark where the 'k' should be. I think it's a fake.
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By garm

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Quote -

"and of course Tolkien did come from this area."

Say no more!
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By garm

Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???

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Collector wrote:

"long, if you are skeptical about these "Higgins" you have not too much idea about Tolkiens life. These letters are original. Dr. Higgings was his family doctor and they gone several times on holidays to Milford."

I know a bit about Tolkien's life; Wayne and Christina know far more. Neither they nor I have heard of Dr. Higgins except for the ebay letters. Could you tell us where your information comes from?
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Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???

Nov 17, 2009 - in Signatures and Autographs
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Collector wrote:

"long, if you are skeptical about these "Higgins" you have not too much idea about Tolkiens life. These letters are original. Dr. Higgings was his family doctor and they gone several times on holidays to Milford."

Apart from the fact that the evidence for "Dr Higgings" (sic) as Tolkien's family doctor is very thin. Was he a GP, what was his practice, where did he live (it is convenient that these eBay letters do not have any envelopes)?

And the problem that Wayne and Christina have mentioned that the letter-headed paper has the wrong letter-head and none are dated. Why would Tolkien type one line of text and then hand sign it? Surely he would hand write the whole text and sign it (much harder to fake though).

I can see no provenance for these letters so have to believe that they, like a lot of 'signed' Tolkien material, are fakes.


Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???

Nov 17, 2009 - in Signatures and Autographs
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Laura, are you skeptical about these letters only because you suposse one friend are not writting letters to another friend? In order to know if a hand sign letter is a fake or not you must do a very deep study, you need a handwriting expert survey. I dont know about Ebay, I never check there, but are you doubting about Allington Antiquarian Books??.
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Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???

Nov 17, 2009 - in Signatures and Autographs
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Garm, Dr. Higgings was the family doctor of Tolkiens family, and a personal friend. If you never heard about him....

Say no more...
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Re: Tolkien Signatures on eBay???

Nov 17, 2009 - in Signatures and Autographs
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Trotter, I dont know about ebay, I never was there. But it is very dificult to fake a book or a letter from 1968, I never bought a letter/book looking a simple picture, I need to study them.

I have a "sleeping book" (sic Laura) from Tolkien, 1ed. Blue ink. and it is very real, all you need is to do a study from a handwriting expert survey.

Thanks to everybody, this a very interesting chat.
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