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9 Jul, 2012
2012-7-9 11:36:41 AM UTC
Just a big pile of Tolkien Society publications...

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Seller: blackwilliam07
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Ended Jul 18, 2012
This item ended more than 90 days ago

Starting bid: £10
Buy-it-now: £30

Decent price, even without those "12 other related publications".

BH

9 Jul, 2012
2012-7-9 10:47:15 PM UTC
9 Jul, 2012
2012-7-9 10:52:03 PM UTC
Oh, I bought it last month for ca. US $60, slightly more than this one offered for US $49.95. Yep, it's a good price.

I should have waited a little longer...
10 Jul, 2012
2012-7-10 8:20:14 AM UTC
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280917347486? ... _trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

This is one of four POME that i know of up for auction, and this one and the one Uruloke posted are the only priced copies. Now i know it's a question as old as time on this site, and probably run into the ground, but what does an intact price do to the value of POME since it had a print run in the 2000's and as far as i can calculate only 2 out of around 8 offered this year have had a price. i also saw one that was price clipped somewhere...
The unpriced copies have been going for around 250 pounds, i'm curios to see what the priced copies go for...
And Stu, i'm curious how much your priced copy feels like it's worth after bringing the Lotus home
Thanks everyone

10 Jul, 2012
2012-7-10 11:43:07 AM UTC
There is just no sensible justification for PoME going for £250+ & MR (now) trading at comfortably under £100 --although I've no doubt it will sell for this kind of price, prices have been dropping for PoME and WotR in recent times. The pulping story is a myth; David Brawn has confirmed this. Your observation about there being more unpriced copies is what I've seen too. Priced copies are definitely less common (--on eBay at least). I don't have either PoME or WotJ, so this is why I'm so narked at these high prices! (--they've got to keep dropping...)

BH

P.S. I intend holding out for a copy for under £200. Quite a few have gone for less in recent auctions.
10 Jul, 2012
2012-7-10 5:08:09 PM UTC
Just had a look - yup; mine's priced. Cost me £25.00, back in the day.
10 Jul, 2012
2012-7-10 10:29:01 PM UTC

Khamul wrote:
There is just no sensible justification for PoME going for £250+ & MR (now) trading at comfortably under £100 --although I've no doubt it will sell for this kind of price, prices have been dropping for PoME and WotR in recent times. The pulping story is a myth; David Brawn has confirmed this. Your observation about there being more unpriced copies is what I've seen too. Priced copies are definitely less common (--on eBay at least). I don't have either PoME or WotJ, so this is why I'm so narked at these high prices! (--they've got to keep dropping...)

BH

P.S. I intend holding out for a copy for under £200. Quite a few have gone for less in recent auctions.


I think I paid about GBP 190-ish (based on the exchange rate at the time) for my priced copy last year (and I've had the unpriced one for years). I can't see value in these books much above that. Prices seem to be dropping and availability is increasing all the time. The only question is whether the Hobbit movie will drive prices up across the board like last time, I guess.

PoME isn't really rare (the print run being only very marginally less than WoTJ), and I'm not even sure that there are actually less priced copies than unpriced, based on the evidence (2525 copies for the trade + 1565 for the BCA). I guess it would depend on whether some of the trade copies were unpriced for export to Canada/Australia?
10 Jul, 2012
2012-7-10 11:24:04 PM UTC
Indeed. Point is these prices are inflated; your £190 seems about right. It's the same with many titles. I was on ABE just there looking at Methuen copies of The Silmarillion. There are about half a dozen on there --three or four of them have been there for years. To me (baring in mind these are genuinely quite rare [sub 200 no doubt]) this suggests these are over-priced; or put more clearly --there are not enough buyers who think these prices are value for money. So, we don't buy, & they don't sell --& they list for years. Totally pointless.

BH
13 Jul, 2012
2012-7-13 4:09:59 AM UTC
Indeed GBP 190 is indeed a good price (considering what copies are going for), but i ran into a seller recently who had a a copy he was willing to sell for GBP 230. The question i ask myself is what is 40 pounds when you're already at almost 200. This copy was unpriced so i thought he was asking too much, i understand the principle of it not being a rare book but people are paying rare book prices, which is what more or less sets the value of something. I kindof wonder if Stu's right, that there are not less priced copies, but that would mean that the collectors are holding on to the priced copies...especially the last 4 HoME books.
The book i listed on this site ends in a couple days and has some competative bidding going on, so i'll be interested to see what it ends at. Really it brings me back to my original question, what's the intact price going to do to it's "value".
Good luck to you Brian on finding a copy for an affordable price! I had some good luck recently and found a decent copy of WotJ that i won for 16 Euros on ebay.de. I was very pleased with this because i would not pay $200 for WotJ, and i've been seeing it go for more than that lately.
It truly is all about patience, knowing what you want to buy and saving up for it (or buying the book when it comes out, right garm )
13 Jul, 2012
2012-7-13 10:00:00 AM UTC
Another £40? It's just that --another £40, down the pan, when you could be buying a nice early set of LotRs, etc. The print run for this was over 4000. Just read that: 4000. All those unpriced copies kicking around: these are some of the 1500 that went to BCA. Although they went on to sell (presumably priced) another 500 or so --there were still 2000 trade editions. The idea that this title is rare or scarce or uncommon is plainly false. That a book that cost £25 at the time is now worth ten times this, is inflated pricing. MR used to be super expensive --it isn't now. The same can happen to WotJs & PoME. I'll wait. I don't feel any inclination to splash out £200+. With the new HarperCollins POD titles too --it makes no sense for prices to go up. If anything they should go down. But, if you want to spend £240, fair enough.

BH
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