_Fall of Arthur_ in 2013?
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Re: _Fall of Arthur_ in 2013?

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Sorry, am I the only one permanently exacerbated by the UK (the world's?) biggest bookselling site? Amazon is in danger of losing, utterly, any credibility, whatsoever, as a reputable bookseller; if it hasn't already. It seems to esteem low price over literally everything else. Nielsen's is another one, with its spurious book data (supplied to eBay sellers) e.g. The Silmarillion: published "31/12/1977". What is this garbage?

I type "fall arthur tolkien" & it finds the standard Hb. Note the listing, that Amazon have assigned, is just the title ("The Fall of Arthur") as you'd expect; the search that comes up is actually "fall arthur tolkien". So Amazon is doing a good job of guiding silly old me, who can't search properly... Oh, hold on: if I'm being shown the search for "fall arthur" why is "The Fall of Arthur (Deluxe Edition)" not showing up in this search!? Surely it should be showing me everything with the words "fall" and "arthur"? Do they want me to find the damn book or not?!

You know, if the service we were getting was actually better than what Amazon has utterly destroyed (i.e. a diverse book market), it would be justified; call it progress. But what we have now is poor, poor, poor. When I search on Abebooks too all I'm seeing now is atrociously listed books; & these are overwhelming the small minority of decent quality booksellers. Then there's HarperCollins, one of the biggest publishers in the world; can't run a website. The market is totally broken...

Old man rant over.

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The thing is, it isn't Amazon that destroyed the book marketplace - we did. We wanted books at a better price than the stores, and so we ended up with a monopoly instead (or perhaps an oligopoly).

Same as when we killed all the local and specialist stores by using the supermarket instead.


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Stu wrote:
The thing is, it isn't Amazon that destroyed the book marketplace - we did. We wanted books at a better price than the stores, and so we ended up with a monopoly instead (or perhaps an oligopoly).

Same as when we killed all the local and specialist stores by using the supermarket instead.


I agree, it is consumers doing this and I include myself as one of them. I noticed an interesting article on the BBC that indirectly relates to this.

"Have you ever seen something you wanted in a shop, tried it, checked the price online on your smartphone, found it was cheaper, and walked out? Welcome to the world of "showrooming". "

"Victoria Barnsley, chief executive of HarperCollins, recently suggested the idea of charging a fee for browsing bookshops is "not that insane".

Steve Pritchard, 61, who runs an independent book store in Crosby, Merseyside, and has worked in the trade for more than 36 years, is not convinced.

"We see them in the corner with their mobile phones, scanning the barcode on a book and finding it cheaper. I can't blame them," he says.
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Though Victoria might want to start by fixing tolkien.co.uk first and actually informing people when they publish new books

The perils of showrooming


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This is why I'm glad, that we have a book price fixing in Germany which keeps all the small bookshops alive. Books at amazon have the same price than in the bookshop around the corner.
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Trotter wrote:

Though Victoria might want to start by fixing tolkien.co.uk first and actually informing people when they publish new books



Tolkien.co.uk is, I suspect, unfixable in its current form. It is clear from the the way it behaves completely without internal self-consistency that the underlying data model is just completely and utterly borked. As a software development professional, I would be ashamed if I ever delivered a product like that...



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