Tolkien Collector's Guide

Want to support us? Use our affiliate links for buying books:

Abebooks.com
Amazon.com
Amazon.co.uk
Blackwell's
ebay.com
ebay.co.uk

-
Winner of the 2019 Tolkien Society award for Best Website

By Jlong
Home away from home

Transcription Help

Jan 2
2020/1/2 3:22:53 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia

I was wondering if any of you might be able to help me decipher whether this excerpt from a Tolkien letter reads "the attempt to meet on Mondays instead of Tuesdays is not wholly successful" or "the attempt to meet on Monday instead of Tuesday is not wholly successful."

Sorry about the quality of the image--it is the only one I have.

251_5e0d620d66a64.jpg 900X163 px
Load previous replies
Jan 2
2020/1/2 9:30:13 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
It looks like he has moved from plural to singular halfway through the sentence, so 'Mondays' and 'Tuesday'.
Jan 2
2020/1/2 14:01:54 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
It reads:

"though ^he is often here at week-ends, the attempt to meet on Mondays instead of Tuesday is not wholly successful."
Jan 2
2020/1/2 14:44:31 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
I'd agree with Aelfwine and Deagol, Tolkien did not spend much time on writing the letter s
Jan 2 (edited)
2020/1/2 15:23:19 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia

Trotter wrote:
I'd agree with Aelfwine and Deagol, Tolkien did not spend much time on writing the letter s

I agree with Aelfwine also and Trotter's point is one I have seen in many of his letters.
Jan 2
2020/1/2 16:35:39 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Thanks everyone. You guys wouldn't consider that tiny mark/dot after "Tuesday" an "s"?
Jan 2
2020/1/2 18:52:39 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Today, with fresh eyes and after looking at some scans of his letters, I can read it as 'Tuesdays', with the blob on the right arm of the 'y' being the 's'.

From the few examples I could find, his approach to writing 'ys' was variable, presumably depending on whether he was rushing at the time.
Jan 2
2020/1/2 23:17:13 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia
Tolkien's word-final "s"-es are often only a curving dip (as in Greek and at times the tengwar) — sometimes even word-internal too — and sometimes a barely-marked appendage. I hope soon to publish something that will illustrate this and many other challenging aspects of Tolkien's handwriting.
Jan 2
2020/1/2 23:19:12 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia

Aelfwine wrote:
Tolkien's word-final "s"-es are often only a curving dip (as in Greek and at times the tengwar) — sometimes even word-internal too — and sometimes a barely-marked appendage. I hope soon to publish something that will illustrate this and many other challenging aspects of Tolkien's handwriting.

I’d really like to read that Aelfwine!
Jan 2
2020/1/2 23:46:11 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia

Urulókë wrote:

Aelfwine wrote:
Tolkien's word-final "s"-es are often only a curving dip (as in Greek and at times the tengwar) — sometimes even word-internal too — and sometimes a barely-marked appendage. I hope soon to publish something that will illustrate this and many other challenging aspects of Tolkien's handwriting.

I’d really like to read that Aelfwine!

Seconded.
Jan 3
2020/1/3 10:20:28 (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time, London, Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca, Monrovia

Stu wrote:

Urulókë wrote:

Aelfwine wrote:
Tolkien's word-final "s"-es are often only a curving dip (as in Greek and at times the tengwar) — sometimes even word-internal too — and sometimes a barely-marked appendage. I hope soon to publish something that will illustrate this and many other challenging aspects of Tolkien's handwriting.

I’d really like to read that Aelfwine!

Seconded.

Thirded.
Jump to Last