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Speak for yourself!

We know from the sneak peak we've had of your collection (on TolkienLibrary) that you have more than both!

Ahhh... The Holford Collection...
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[Peeta] Sorry, one other point worth remembering.

Deagol mentioned the line number sequence in respect to HarperCollins vol. 10, 11 & 12. This only really applies to vol. 10 Morgoths Ring; as Jewels and Peoples were never reprinted in hardback format i.e. there is no 2nd impression for these two volumes. (There was a 2nd impression for Morgoths Ring; no later impressions though i.e. no 3rd of 4th etc)

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By Peeta

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Thanks for all the detailed information, it really helps to know what exactly to look for! As i have said tolkienbooks.net is an amazing place for a reference point or more detailed research. Is there a website similar to this one for US Tolkien works?


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(Without running the risk of endangering Deagol's head! ) I think it's safe & accurate to state that Tolkienbooks.net is one of the most comprehensive sources (book or otherwise) on the specific bibliographical area that it has chosen to focus on. Namely, documenting textual and physical changes to editions (or impressions) of Tolkien's work.

The very fact that it is online makes it measurably more accessible when your browsing the internet for books; the alternative being to pick up your (treasured) copy of Hammond's Bibliography. And we can't have that...

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I have to agree with Khamul's comments on this.

Deagol has done a fantastic job of documenting the UK books and to do the same for the US editions would involve two things.

1 - Actually having all the books in one collection.
2 - Spending many hundreds of hours documenting them on a web site.

So for these two reasons I think it is unlikely that a web site as comprehensive as Deagol's will exist for US books.

Here is the link that Khamul forgot to insert for The Holford Collection... in his previous post in case you have not seen it.

In the meantime this site does have quite a lot of information on US Editions.


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I actually didn't intend to link it to the collector profile on TolkienLibrary. I was talking about the entire collection that Neil undoubtedly has; of which we are only seeing a small section of in those photographs.

I agree with your point regarding documenting books generally; quite difficult without the books in hand. And that, is a lot of books...

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Thanks foe your very kind words!
They are much appreciated.

It is surprising how much additional detail you can pick up once the books are in front of you. I am waiting on delivery of 2 or 3 more books before I update the 1974-1976 section.
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By Dior

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I think I can safely speak for everyone on this site when I say that every update on your website is much anticipated and appreciated.

Thanks for all your hard work

Dior

ps. I have a few scans to send you. I will be able to do this tomorrow.


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Trotter said:
"Deagol has done a fantastic job of documenting the UK books and to do the same for the US editions would involve two things.

1 - Actually having all the books in one collection.
2 - Spending many hundreds of hours documenting them on a web site.

So for these two reasons I think it is unlikely that a web site as comprehensive as Deagol's will exist for US books.
"


Greetings all,

First, thank you Trotter for putting up the link. Though it is off topic, I'd like to speak to this subject. To put a point on it, about five years and $3000 annually to throw at it is what it takes... but those are not the reasons, to my mind.

I have collected or seen the vast majority of the U.S. books; I go armed with notebooks to used bookstores for the most common things, and the ones that have to be purchased would take a huge amount of space to keep around, so most of those are documented and re-sold. There are very few gaps in the highly detailed archive for anything over 20 years old at this point (most of the editions less than 20 years old are actually still in print and cannot be finished) - but it is not all online.

The primary reason: the market is different on this side of the pond. There are a lot fewer U.S. editions, because a) Tolkien is England's native son, and b) almost all the U.S. material has been mass produced for a huge population, sometimes to dozens of printings of a single cover. Even taking into account the books only printed once, perhaps one twentieth of all U.S. imprints are of interest to the Tolkien collector who wants one example of everything. The nostalgia hunter will care even less about details - he simply wants the books he remembers "from back when". Lengthy pages in text format that include exact printing dates, cover prices, etc. exist - but does anyone care about printing number 26 of 40, and is it worth muddying the waters to post it? My thought is no... that's why TUSTG is not called a bibliography, but a location guide; I believe it is much more functional in its current form.

The secondary reason stems from the first - what would one do with an avalanche of not-terribly-collectible books that have to be purchased? Even I'm not crazy enough to want one of each U.S. printing of everything... and I'll tell you, it's been as much work to get rid of them as it was to find them in the first place. Some of it is for sale on the website, and Amazon has been very helpful in this arena - but it's still a financial drain, and time consuming, and though of course I keep some of the best stuff, there is not a world-class Tolkien collection at the end of this road....

There is more that could be said, but I'm going through a patch of burnout at the moment, so it isn't too hard to keep a cap on it. In case anyone wonders what happened to the reference and criticism catalog, it will be back in July.

cheers!

-skwish
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Burnout for the Tolkien Collector?! A very worthy topic for discussion in a new thread I feel...

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